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The last full paragraph wraps it up thus: The Hartes are also a white, financially sound couple who both happened to have worked for the CIA. Most people on the

The last full paragraph wraps it up thus: The Hartes are also a white, financially sound couple who both happened to have worked for the CIA. Most people on the receiving end of these raids aren’t white, aren’t middle-class, didn’t once work for a federal law enforcement agency and don’t have $25,000 to fund a fight in court. I believe it to say that even with intimate knowledge of US law enforcement, they still had trouble getting answers and results... the rest of us are equally screwed.

golergka 11y ago
That's not really what I meant though. Could it be something else than a drug bust in reality?
- jack-r-abbit 11y ago
  I don't know why they got raided any more than you. (I suspect it to be exactly how the article presents it since I have no reason to think otherwise.) I was just pointing out that they did mention it again in the article since you seemed to have missed it in your skipping through.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> I believe it to say that even with intimate knowledge of US law enforcement, they still had trouble getting answers and results... While the article by its use of comparisons in that paragraph tries to suggest that (by imply that the CIA is a federal law enforcement agency and therefore, being former CIA analysts, the Hartes would have intimate knowledge of law enforcement), this is false because the CIA is not a law enforcement agency, it is a foreign intelligence agency, and to the extent that it coordinates with law enforcement, it is principally with federal agencies (mostly the FBI) whose law enforcement brief includes national security matters, and there is no indication in the article that this coordination was any part of the Hartes' work as CIA analysts. I think the reporter here is either being willfully misleading to give the story greater emotional appeal, or has watched too many of the movies and TV shows in which the CIA is portrayed as having a role that is a mix of its own and that of the FBI, and mistaken them for reality.
- caf 11y ago
  I don't think that's the implication at all. The implication is rather that the Hartes are firmly part of the Establishment, and even the privileges bestowed by that membership couldn't help them.
- spookedaccount 11y ago
  Ironic if FBI counter-intelligence investigate the police over this one. I suspect the article is misleading in parts.

golergka 11y ago

That's not really what I meant though. Could it be something else than a drug bust in reality?

jack-r-abbit 11y ago
I don't know why they got raided any more than you. (I suspect it to be exactly how the article presents it since I have no reason to think otherwise.) I was just pointing out that they did mention it again in the article since you seemed to have missed it in your skipping through.

dragonwriter 11y ago

> I believe it to say that even with intimate knowledge of US law enforcement, they still had trouble getting answers and results... While the article by its use of comparisons in that paragraph tries to suggest that (by imply that the CIA is a federal law enforcement agency and therefore, being former CIA analysts, the Hartes would have intimate knowledge of law enforcement), this is false because the CIA is not a law enforcement agency, it is a foreign intelligence agency, and to the extent that it coordinates with law enforcement, it is principally with federal agencies (mostly the FBI) whose law enforcement brief includes national security matters, and there is no indication in the article that this coordination was any part of the Hartes' work as CIA analysts. I think the reporter here is either being willfully misleading to give the story greater emotional appeal, or has watched too many of the movies and TV shows in which the CIA is portrayed as having a role that is a mix of its own and that of the FBI, and mistaken them for reality.

caf 11y ago
I don't think that's the implication at all. The implication is rather that the Hartes are firmly part of the Establishment, and even the privileges bestowed by that membership couldn't help them.
spookedaccount 11y ago
Ironic if FBI counter-intelligence investigate the police over this one. I suspect the article is misleading in parts.