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I hope this account isn't linked to your actual identity, because in a police state, stating that you're indifferent to police being killed is a very good way o

by anon4 11y ago

I hope this account isn't linked to your actual identity, because in a police state, stating that you're indifferent to police being killed is a very good way of getting very special attention.

kuschku 11y ago
If someone wants to find something bad on the person, then it’ll be very easy. Bought fertilizer? said online that you’re indifferent to police being killed? "We have clues the person might have planned a bomb attack on local police headquarters". The whole issue of being able to use planted evidence, misinterpreted information, or faked witness statements to hurt some random person is real. As can be seen in the fact that a single call can lead to a SWATting.
cryoshon 11y ago
Pfft, we're all already "on the lists", and it's too late to care about that. The government has dossiers on all of us sitting in databases somewhere, detailing our political views, grudges, radicalization potential, etc. Sure, maybe by being a bit more edgy you get put on the next edgier list and there's more scrutiny, but let's face it, the government isn't even aggressive enough to stop the people on the no-fly list from weaponizing, so they are sure as hell not aggressive enough to bother people not associated with terrorism but who disagree with them overtly. As of now, there are not so many tangible consequences to disagreeing with the government in public. So, in short: the "attention" of the federal part of the police state is algorithmic, and, while malicious, relatively impotent in terms of effecting armed raids. The local cops aren't empowered to hunt down their detractors or federal dissenters so long as they don't demonstrate physically en masse.
gutnor 11y ago
That would mean that the State is actually making some deep analysis. The level of analysis here is very very shallow: a set of registration numbers jotted down by a police officer on a parking lot 5 months before. The rest, which is already not much at all, is at best heavily biased dice throw, or as the author suggest simply planted evidence. No deep connection check ( like government monitoring database for activities like on reddit trees ), background analysis (why would a rich family start a home pot operation in the first place), no basic policing work ( electricity/water consumption, movement, contact with dealer, ...). Parent can say whatever he wants here. Visiting a fishing and hunting shop, or picking his friend at the gun range is all that is needed for the police.

by anon4 11y ago

I hope this account isn't linked to your actual identity, because in a police state, stating that you're indifferent to police being killed is a very good way of getting very special attention.

kuschku 11y ago

If someone wants to find something bad on the person, then it’ll be very easy. Bought fertilizer? said online that you’re indifferent to police being killed? "We have clues the person might have planned a bomb attack on local police headquarters". The whole issue of being able to use planted evidence, misinterpreted information, or faked witness statements to hurt some random person is real. As can be seen in the fact that a single call can lead to a SWATting.

cryoshon 11y ago

Pfft, we're all already "on the lists", and it's too late to care about that. The government has dossiers on all of us sitting in databases somewhere, detailing our political views, grudges, radicalization potential, etc. Sure, maybe by being a bit more edgy you get put on the next edgier list and there's more scrutiny, but let's face it, the government isn't even aggressive enough to stop the people on the no-fly list from weaponizing, so they are sure as hell not aggressive enough to bother people not associated with terrorism but who disagree with them overtly. As of now, there are not so many tangible consequences to disagreeing with the government in public. So, in short: the "attention" of the federal part of the police state is algorithmic, and, while malicious, relatively impotent in terms of effecting armed raids. The local cops aren't empowered to hunt down their detractors or federal dissenters so long as they don't demonstrate physically en masse.

gutnor 11y ago

That would mean that the State is actually making some deep analysis. The level of analysis here is very very shallow: a set of registration numbers jotted down by a police officer on a parking lot 5 months before. The rest, which is already not much at all, is at best heavily biased dice throw, or as the author suggest simply planted evidence. No deep connection check ( like government monitoring database for activities like on reddit trees ), background analysis (why would a rich family start a home pot operation in the first place), no basic policing work ( electricity/water consumption, movement, contact with dealer, ...). Parent can say whatever he wants here. Visiting a fishing and hunting shop, or picking his friend at the gun range is all that is needed for the police.