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Also consider these two personal observations: 1) The increase in college enrollment has exceeded the capacity of many in-state schools (a.k.a. the more afford

by jonesb6 11y ago

Also consider these two personal observations: 1) The increase in college enrollment has exceeded the capacity of many in-state schools (a.k.a. the more affordable ones) and influenced many 18-year olds to enroll in out-of-state schools (a.k.a. the six figure ones). 2) From a very young age kids today are taught that college is a no-brainer, and the quality of the college they go to will deeply impact their future success. So do you pick that community college route which is affordable, or that six figure out of state school? Every part of this is a quagmire, and it's creating more and more frustration and outrage. I have no clue what the end result will be, but it won't be good.

a3n 11y ago
> do you pick that community college route which is affordable, or that six figure out of state school? In case anyone is seriously in this dilemma, take up to two years of CC for prelims etc, then transfer to university. $UNIVERSITY will be where you graduate from, not CC. You'll also have smaller class sizes and will probably get more out of your classes and teachers.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  Except for universities which have transfer agreements with the particular CCs (which are common for state-run universities and same-state-run CCs, less so otherwise), it can be more difficult to transfer from a CC to university than for a student out of high school to get into that university as a freshman -- many universities are less geared to transfer admission, and many CCs don't provide opportunities to stand out (especially when competing transfers at the same level may be from other universities, as well as CCs.) So, that strategy can work -- but it has limits.
  - a3n 11y ago
    Yes, everything has limits, and it would be better if you could afford all four years at university. When you can't, you have to think of alternatives. This is one of them.
  - lostcolony 11y ago
    Yes, if you're looking to wind up at an out of state uni, you're probably screwed and will have to fork over massive amounts of cash. If you're looking for in state, though, the savings from a CC are huge, especially if you can still live at home while attending, and it doesn't affect your academic record (well, it may indirectly in whether your GPA transfers when your credits do)
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      Its not just an in-state/out-of-state issue. In-state private universities (which in many cases are less expensive for many students after need-based aid than public universities) may be just as problematic as out-of-state universities in taking CC credits. > If you're looking for in state, though, the savings from a CC are huge, especially if you can still live at home while attending "Live at home while attending" vs. "move out to live near school" is a separate axis of variation from CC vs. university. But, yes, its somewhat more likely that this will be a viable option with a CC.
- Mz 11y ago
  This may depend a lot on the state you are in. I grew up in Georgia and had never heard of this concept. I later moved to California which has many excellent community colleges, crazy low in state tuition for a CC and lots of transfer agreements and even a website devoted to looking up which classes will be automatically accepted, etc. This may be a case of "YMMV depending on the state you live in."
- khyryk 11y ago
  As someone who did this, there's a caveat not typically mentioned. It's much more difficult to get an internship as a CC student than as a university student. Thus, by the time you transfer to university, you're going to be competing for your first internship with people who have already done 1-2 because they were already at university for 2 years.

by jonesb6 11y ago

a3n 11y ago

> do you pick that community college route which is affordable, or that six figure out of state school? In case anyone is seriously in this dilemma, take up to two years of CC for prelims etc, then transfer to university. $UNIVERSITY will be where you graduate from, not CC. You'll also have smaller class sizes and will probably get more out of your classes and teachers.

dragonwriter 11y ago
Except for universities which have transfer agreements with the particular CCs (which are common for state-run universities and same-state-run CCs, less so otherwise), it can be more difficult to transfer from a CC to university than for a student out of high school to get into that university as a freshman -- many universities are less geared to transfer admission, and many CCs don't provide opportunities to stand out (especially when competing transfers at the same level may be from other universities, as well as CCs.) So, that strategy can work -- but it has limits.
- a3n 11y ago
  Yes, everything has limits, and it would be better if you could afford all four years at university. When you can't, you have to think of alternatives. This is one of them.
- lostcolony 11y ago
  Yes, if you're looking to wind up at an out of state uni, you're probably screwed and will have to fork over massive amounts of cash. If you're looking for in state, though, the savings from a CC are huge, especially if you can still live at home while attending, and it doesn't affect your academic record (well, it may indirectly in whether your GPA transfers when your credits do)
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    Its not just an in-state/out-of-state issue. In-state private universities (which in many cases are less expensive for many students after need-based aid than public universities) may be just as problematic as out-of-state universities in taking CC credits. > If you're looking for in state, though, the savings from a CC are huge, especially if you can still live at home while attending "Live at home while attending" vs. "move out to live near school" is a separate axis of variation from CC vs. university. But, yes, its somewhat more likely that this will be a viable option with a CC.
Mz 11y ago
This may depend a lot on the state you are in. I grew up in Georgia and had never heard of this concept. I later moved to California which has many excellent community colleges, crazy low in state tuition for a CC and lots of transfer agreements and even a website devoted to looking up which classes will be automatically accepted, etc. This may be a case of "YMMV depending on the state you live in."
khyryk 11y ago
As someone who did this, there's a caveat not typically mentioned. It's much more difficult to get an internship as a CC student than as a university student. Thus, by the time you transfer to university, you're going to be competing for your first internship with people who have already done 1-2 because they were already at university for 2 years.