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> I'm not interested in natural language processing with machines and machine learning. I'm confused, why not? "English grammar visualization" is inherently an

> I'm not interested in natural language processing with machines and machine learning. I'm confused, why not? "English grammar visualization" is inherently an NLP problem. Both handwritten and statistically learned grammars are very large and therefore hard to visualize. I think it would be better to focus on a manageable language fragment. Some kind of interactive second language learning environment--but that probably already exists. What is it exactly that you want to do? BTW: I wonder for how many people "graphing sentences" is an effective approach to language learning.

zappo2938 11y ago
When I first got to college realizing that I was having a very difficult time with writing, I went to the grammar section in the school's library. After failing to work through a few of the more popular books on grammar that I tried, I discovered an small obscure grammar book. The way the book worked is to first explain a handful of grammar concepts and then have the reader parse several sentences before moving onto more complex concepts. It was so systematic and methodical. I reviewed the book a couple years ago and out of curiosity searched for one of the concepts online. There were only a small handful of search results and I think the author made up the word, the book is obscure. One of the results linked to an article on the IBM website written by one of the Watson engineers. I wrote him an email because I would imagine their engineers were using much more complicated concepts in linguistic research that a layman like my self would ever understand. We were interested in two very different things. He is interested in helping a machine understand semantic meaning through grammatical structure while I'm interested in helping people understand semantic meaning through grammatical structure. Sure we are both using the same grammar book to parse a sentence. But how we are doing it is completely different. He is writing a program to do it and I'm writing a program to hold a child's hand while the child does it. A sentence is a pattern of patterns. For the same reason Mike Bostock's work in visualization helps people understand patterns whether it is about the road to the White House or the road to the Super Bowl based on team salaries, visualization helps students with pattern recognition in their own writing.
- prutschman 11y ago
  I'm curious about this book, what was it?
  - zappo2938 11y ago
    Doing Grammar by Max Morenberg [1]For me, isolating the concepts spared me a lot of confusion. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Doing-Grammar-Edition-Max-Morenberg/dp/0195387295 http://www.amazon.com/Doing-Grammar-Edition-Max-Morenberg/dp...
    - prutschman 11y ago
      Thanks!

zappo2938 11y ago

When I first got to college realizing that I was having a very difficult time with writing, I went to the grammar section in the school's library. After failing to work through a few of the more popular books on grammar that I tried, I discovered an small obscure grammar book. The way the book worked is to first explain a handful of grammar concepts and then have the reader parse several sentences before moving onto more complex concepts. It was so systematic and methodical. I reviewed the book a couple years ago and out of curiosity searched for one of the concepts online. There were only a small handful of search results and I think the author made up the word, the book is obscure. One of the results linked to an article on the IBM website written by one of the Watson engineers. I wrote him an email because I would imagine their engineers were using much more complicated concepts in linguistic research that a layman like my self would ever understand. We were interested in two very different things. He is interested in helping a machine understand semantic meaning through grammatical structure while I'm interested in helping people understand semantic meaning through grammatical structure. Sure we are both using the same grammar book to parse a sentence. But how we are doing it is completely different. He is writing a program to do it and I'm writing a program to hold a child's hand while the child does it. A sentence is a pattern of patterns. For the same reason Mike Bostock's work in visualization helps people understand patterns whether it is about the road to the White House or the road to the Super Bowl based on team salaries, visualization helps students with pattern recognition in their own writing.

prutschman 11y ago
I'm curious about this book, what was it?
- zappo2938 11y ago
  Doing Grammar by Max Morenberg [1]For me, isolating the concepts spared me a lot of confusion. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Doing-Grammar-Edition-Max-Morenberg/dp/0195387295 http://www.amazon.com/Doing-Grammar-Edition-Max-Morenberg/dp...
  - prutschman 11y ago
    Thanks!