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Better test everyone for alcohol then, since drunk driving is more prevalent than illegal drug use.

by cname 11y ago

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
Drunk driving is a far cry from drug possession. For one thing, you can get drunk frequently, show up to work on time, and never touch the wheel of a car. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  Sure, but by that token, you can smoke cannabis nightly, show up for work on time, and never touch the wheel of a car either. You'd still fail the piss test. The other thing not touched on too much is how cannabis (despite being one of the least harmful recreational drugs/drugs of abuse, and most commonly used) is one that can be detected the longest. I can go out on a bender drinking liquor and blowing lines of coke this weekend, get called in for a drug test on Thursday, and still piss clean. ...but if I went camping a few weeks ago and spent my evenings passing joints around the fire with friends, I could easily throw a flag for cannabinoids on a urinalysis weeks later. It's really kinda messed up in that way because the logic of "well, what does it say about you that you couldn't lay off the stuff long enough to pass a drug test?" goes out the window with pot. If you like to take a few tokes in the evening after work, that can show up on a test weeks or months later, even if you quit while applying for jobs.
  - pc86 11y ago
    I'm not going to pull it up on my work computer, but the Wikipedia "Cannabis drug testing" article states that for non-habitual users, THC only stays in your system for 3-10 days. Long-term, habitual use will obviously build up in your system and be detectable for much longer. So yes, I think "well, what does it say about you that you couldn't lay off the stuff long enough to pass a drug test?" is still relevant for non-habitual users, and habitual users are exactly the ones these types of policies are designed to detect.
- CaptSpify 11y ago
  and people can do the same thing with weed, or other drugs. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
- cname 11y ago
  It seems that you've conflated "drunk" and "drunk driving". DUIs can be felonies, while drug possession is often only a misdemeanor. Also, killing or maiming someone (including yourself) can have a detrimental effect on a person's ability to work. My point is that drunk driving can lead to people missing work or being put in jail.

Better test everyone for alcohol then, since drunk driving is more prevalent than illegal drug use.

by cname 11y ago

Better test everyone for alcohol then, since drunk driving is more prevalent than illegal drug use.

Drunk driving is a far cry from drug possession. For one thing, you can get drunk frequently, show up to work on time, and never touch the wheel of a car. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

soylentcola 11y ago
Sure, but by that token, you can smoke cannabis nightly, show up for work on time, and never touch the wheel of a car either. You'd still fail the piss test. The other thing not touched on too much is how cannabis (despite being one of the least harmful recreational drugs/drugs of abuse, and most commonly used) is one that can be detected the longest. I can go out on a bender drinking liquor and blowing lines of coke this weekend, get called in for a drug test on Thursday, and still piss clean. ...but if I went camping a few weeks ago and spent my evenings passing joints around the fire with friends, I could easily throw a flag for cannabinoids on a urinalysis weeks later. It's really kinda messed up in that way because the logic of "well, what does it say about you that you couldn't lay off the stuff long enough to pass a drug test?" goes out the window with pot. If you like to take a few tokes in the evening after work, that can show up on a test weeks or months later, even if you quit while applying for jobs.
- pc86 11y ago
  I'm not going to pull it up on my work computer, but the Wikipedia "Cannabis drug testing" article states that for non-habitual users, THC only stays in your system for 3-10 days. Long-term, habitual use will obviously build up in your system and be detectable for much longer. So yes, I think "well, what does it say about you that you couldn't lay off the stuff long enough to pass a drug test?" is still relevant for non-habitual users, and habitual users are exactly the ones these types of policies are designed to detect.
CaptSpify 11y ago
and people can do the same thing with weed, or other drugs. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
cname 11y ago
It seems that you've conflated "drunk" and "drunk driving". DUIs can be felonies, while drug possession is often only a misdemeanor. Also, killing or maiming someone (including yourself) can have a detrimental effect on a person's ability to work. My point is that drunk driving can lead to people missing work or being put in jail.