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I don't think so. The treatment of animals today isn't any worse than it was 100 years ago. In most ways our treatment of animals is dramatically better includi

by jsz0 11y ago

I don't think so. The treatment of animals today isn't any worse than it was 100 years ago. In most ways our treatment of animals is dramatically better including things like animal cruelty laws, protection of endangered species, owners providing basic health care for pets, etc. Even in regards to industrial farming it would be hard to argue conditions were better in the past. Turn of the century pig farms were horrors that make modern day industrial farming look good by comparison.

jessaustin 11y ago
You've identified a trend. Why do you expect this trend will halt or reverse, rather than continue as GP expects?
- pvaldes 11y ago
  Because is unsustainable when you cross some point. Other possible and realistic scenery could be "I suspect that a hundred years from now humans will look back on the vegan ideas as barbarous in their treatment of plants, overgrazing and human gut flora". Is not a fact, is an idea that casually gives social cookies when is repeated, so is popular currently.
drumdance 11y ago
> Turn of the century pig farms were horrors that make modern day industrial farming look good by comparison. Really? I grew up in the country and I had friends who raised pigs and cows. Those animals had it way better than the typical factory farm.
- nitrogen 11y ago
  It's easy to think of the past as being more primitive than it was. Maybe there were things analogous to modern factory farms in 1900 as well, and those things were worse than modern equivalents.
maxxxxx 11y ago
Have you been to industrial farming facilities? The only thing they are doing really well is to keep the animals alive as long as needed. They are a total nightmare without any regards to the well being of animals. I have trouble thinking about ways of treating them worse. I hope that with progress on synthetic meat this whole industry will go away.

by jsz0 11y ago

jessaustin 11y ago

You've identified a trend. Why do you expect this trend will halt or reverse, rather than continue as GP expects?

pvaldes 11y ago
Because is unsustainable when you cross some point. Other possible and realistic scenery could be "I suspect that a hundred years from now humans will look back on the vegan ideas as barbarous in their treatment of plants, overgrazing and human gut flora". Is not a fact, is an idea that casually gives social cookies when is repeated, so is popular currently.

drumdance 11y ago

> Turn of the century pig farms were horrors that make modern day industrial farming look good by comparison. Really? I grew up in the country and I had friends who raised pigs and cows. Those animals had it way better than the typical factory farm.

nitrogen 11y ago
It's easy to think of the past as being more primitive than it was. Maybe there were things analogous to modern factory farms in 1900 as well, and those things were worse than modern equivalents.

maxxxxx 11y ago

Have you been to industrial farming facilities? The only thing they are doing really well is to keep the animals alive as long as needed. They are a total nightmare without any regards to the well being of animals. I have trouble thinking about ways of treating them worse. I hope that with progress on synthetic meat this whole industry will go away.