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It is the plight of a people. The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holoc

It is the plight of a people. The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holocaust?

pc86 11y ago
> It is the plight of a people. Modern African Americans have no more in common with the slaves on that island than I do with a random German or Spaniard from the same time period. That is to say the only commonality is skin color. > The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. The parent comment to which I was replying is the equivalent of saying "hey look at this bad thing that happened to some Jewish people in 1710. Isn't the Holocaust terrible Germans should feel bad." It is nonsensical and ridiculous, and has no bearing on reality. > Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holocaust? The guidelines of the site and common civility prevent me from replying to this.
kbenson 11y ago
No, but I would expect them to stop complaining about current day Germans as a whole nationality, or more accurately, current day Japanese. It's a few hundred years and a different people. Sure, there were similar crimes, but to connect this specific event to them just because of some tenuous connection, such as the color of their skin, is inherently racist in itself.
- littletimmy 11y ago
  You should think in terms of communities and their histories, not in terms of individuals.
  - astine 11y ago
    Do you want to blame modern Assyrians for the excesses of the Assyrian empire? Do you expect the people of Botswana to be held responsible for the actions of Mauritanians? When you define your 'communities' purely in terms of race without regard to distance or time or nationality or even individuality, it's those kinds of absurdities that you end up with.

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It is the plight of a people. The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holoc

by littletimmy 11y ago

It is the plight of a people. The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holocaust?

pc86 11y ago
> It is the plight of a people. Modern African Americans have no more in common with the slaves on that island than I do with a random German or Spaniard from the same time period. That is to say the only commonality is skin color. > The same relation that the Holocaust has to the Jews of today. The parent comment to which I was replying is the equivalent of saying "hey look at this bad thing that happened to some Jewish people in 1710. Isn't the Holocaust terrible Germans should feel bad." It is nonsensical and ridiculous, and has no bearing on reality. > Perhaps you also think Jews should stop complaining about the Holocaust? The guidelines of the site and common civility prevent me from replying to this.
kbenson 11y ago
No, but I would expect them to stop complaining about current day Germans as a whole nationality, or more accurately, current day Japanese. It's a few hundred years and a different people. Sure, there were similar crimes, but to connect this specific event to them just because of some tenuous connection, such as the color of their skin, is inherently racist in itself.
- littletimmy 11y ago
  You should think in terms of communities and their histories, not in terms of individuals.
  - astine 11y ago
    Do you want to blame modern Assyrians for the excesses of the Assyrian empire? Do you expect the people of Botswana to be held responsible for the actions of Mauritanians? When you define your 'communities' purely in terms of race without regard to distance or time or nationality or even individuality, it's those kinds of absurdities that you end up with.