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The fact that we don't treat actual humans humanely may very well be on a continuum with the fact that we don't treat animals as having human-level rights. Ult
by fixermark 11y ago
The fact that we don't treat actual humans humanely may very well be on a continuum with the fact that we don't treat animals as having human-level rights.
Ultimately, it may not be that things that are sentient have inviolable rights; it may be that we simply draw a moral circle around ourselves and if you're close enough in the circle, you're protected; if not, you're not. There may be a good historical reason for that; there's anthropological evidence that our early ancestors shared the planet with creatures who were a lot closer to them in both look and behavior than anything living today and that were competing fiercely and in a zero-sum style for overlapping resources. It's not a large leap to imagine that our developed morality therefore accounts for creatures with every bit the cognitive capacity of your own that you cannot coexist peaceably with for risk that they'll end you and your entire bloodline by out-competing you.
Whether that's the way we should approach the world (in a modern era where our species dominates the planet's resource allocation and is threatened by functionally zero complex organisms) is a reasonable question; it may very well still be a framework that describes morality for a great deal of the planet's population.
- eli_gottlieb 11y agoThe basic question of morality is not, "Are we two similar?", it's "Can we two coexist in a community, and to what extent?" People are going to, quite sensibly, reject attempts at "ethical" argumentation in which we are instructed to dismantle human life for the sake of nonhuman life. If it comes to two groups in zero-sum conflict, morality has already broken down and you've gone into the domain of war. So there's not much point to saying we should treat animals humanely by driving humans extinct.
- JoeAltmaier 11y agoInteresting. I'd note that Neanderthals (if that's whom you are hinting at) actually hunted one another for food when stressed. So no reason for their extinction to be blamed on Homo Sapiens. They were just less efficient at creating large social organizations, so eventually died out.
- fixermark 11y agoDied out and interbred with early migrating humans, if I understand the research correctly? https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/ https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/