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Wow, just wow. I'm a cyclist myself and this kind of immature attitude just gets to me. I simply cannot fathom how to begin to justify it.

buro9 11y ago
Perhaps it's just a London bias. We're averaging a cyclist fatality every month with severe injuries every week and a significant number of minor injuries daily. I personally think it's the infrastructure more than anything else, and the prevailing TfL policies promoting high flow of traffic over liveable and calm environments.
- johansch 11y ago
  As an outsider who has has visited London a couple of times: yes, it is obviously an infrastructure thing. I wouldn't dream of cycling on the streets of London; I don't have a death wish. (I'm in Sweden. Most of the time there's dedicated bike lanes/roads, but sometimes in the inner city parts we have to share the roads with cars.) I still think your fellow cyclists are being silly/immature. You should lobby for more isolation of car/bike traffic. However... Rejecting this kind of safety spray out of political reasons would be like rejecting bike helmets out of political reasons. You're wearing it to protect yourself...
rdiddly 11y ago
I'll give you some help justifying it and fathoming it: 30,000 people are dying on roads in the US every year. Because of cars, not because of invisible cyclists. Most of which, there is already a law in place that would've prevented it, i.e. when a crash takes place there has typically already been a law broken. 30,000 people, that's TEN 9/11's every year. Enough to justify ten wars, some would say. So it's well more than enough to justify politely telling you to go fuck off with your glow-in-the-dark spraypaint. People in cars - YOU go paint yourself. YOU grow up. YOU take responsibility and be mature.
- johansch 11y ago
  Yeah, that's just batshit insane. Sorry. Some sort of symbolic protest against car drivers is not going to help your cause. Your target should be the designers of the road system. Until you fix that, this is a stop-gap. Either way, in case you are more interested in surviving rather making a political point (the wrong audience), it makes no sense to reject something that can protect you.

buro9 11y ago

Perhaps it's just a London bias. We're averaging a cyclist fatality every month with severe injuries every week and a significant number of minor injuries daily. I personally think it's the infrastructure more than anything else, and the prevailing TfL policies promoting high flow of traffic over liveable and calm environments.

johansch 11y ago
As an outsider who has has visited London a couple of times: yes, it is obviously an infrastructure thing. I wouldn't dream of cycling on the streets of London; I don't have a death wish. (I'm in Sweden. Most of the time there's dedicated bike lanes/roads, but sometimes in the inner city parts we have to share the roads with cars.) I still think your fellow cyclists are being silly/immature. You should lobby for more isolation of car/bike traffic. However... Rejecting this kind of safety spray out of political reasons would be like rejecting bike helmets out of political reasons. You're wearing it to protect yourself...

rdiddly 11y ago

I'll give you some help justifying it and fathoming it: 30,000 people are dying on roads in the US every year. Because of cars, not because of invisible cyclists. Most of which, there is already a law in place that would've prevented it, i.e. when a crash takes place there has typically already been a law broken. 30,000 people, that's TEN 9/11's every year. Enough to justify ten wars, some would say. So it's well more than enough to justify politely telling you to go fuck off with your glow-in-the-dark spraypaint. People in cars - YOU go paint yourself. YOU grow up. YOU take responsibility and be mature.

johansch 11y ago
Yeah, that's just batshit insane. Sorry. Some sort of symbolic protest against car drivers is not going to help your cause. Your target should be the designers of the road system. Until you fix that, this is a stop-gap. Either way, in case you are more interested in surviving rather making a political point (the wrong audience), it makes no sense to reject something that can protect you.