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> No. I am angry at people for mistreating me to no one's benefit. I'd say you're angry at the system (and rightfully so!), and taking it out on the ones who a

> No. I am angry at people for mistreating me to no one's benefit. I'd say you're angry at the system (and rightfully so!), and taking it out on the ones who are just trying to feed their families. You're quite literally cutting off the nose to spite the face. And I still maintain that you are yourself just as sadistic and hateful as the system you bemoan, if not more so.

coldpie 11y ago
So you think that getting paid relieves you of all culpability for your actions. I don't agree.
- morganvachon 11y ago
  > So you think that getting paid relieves you of all culpability for your actions. Not at all, and you know very well I never said that. Since you're so keen on putting words in my mouth to reach an erroneous conclusion, I'm just going to stop here.
  - coldpie 11y ago
    You were asked the question twice[1][2] and ignored it both times, so I was trying to pin down an answer. I'm trying to find where our disagreement lies. 1) We agree that the TSA agents' actions should make me angry. 2) We agree that the TSA agents themselves are culpable for their actions. 3) Therefor, it makes sense for me to be angry at the TSA agents. 4) I think our disagreement lies here, where I think I am allowed to retaliate (within the bounds of the law, obviously) against those who upset me, while you think I'm not. You were couching your argument in terms of "they're just doing their jobs; be angry at the policy makers, not at those who carry out the policy," which made me think the disagreement was in (2) above. But your reply here makes me think the disagreement is in (4). I understand the viewpoint that one should always turn the other cheek to one's oppressors. I don't subscribe to it myself. If they're going to harass and anger me and waste my time, I really don't have any problems returning the favor. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801547 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801549

coldpie 11y ago

So you think that getting paid relieves you of all culpability for your actions. I don't agree.

morganvachon 11y ago
> So you think that getting paid relieves you of all culpability for your actions. Not at all, and you know very well I never said that. Since you're so keen on putting words in my mouth to reach an erroneous conclusion, I'm just going to stop here.
- coldpie 11y ago
  You were asked the question twice[1][2] and ignored it both times, so I was trying to pin down an answer. I'm trying to find where our disagreement lies. 1) We agree that the TSA agents' actions should make me angry. 2) We agree that the TSA agents themselves are culpable for their actions. 3) Therefor, it makes sense for me to be angry at the TSA agents. 4) I think our disagreement lies here, where I think I am allowed to retaliate (within the bounds of the law, obviously) against those who upset me, while you think I'm not. You were couching your argument in terms of "they're just doing their jobs; be angry at the policy makers, not at those who carry out the policy," which made me think the disagreement was in (2) above. But your reply here makes me think the disagreement is in (4). I understand the viewpoint that one should always turn the other cheek to one's oppressors. I don't subscribe to it myself. If they're going to harass and anger me and waste my time, I really don't have any problems returning the favor. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801547 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10801549