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Unfortunately, that's the pablum my doctor said. I have not been following my doctor's advice, as it is generally scientifically bad. I haven't went all in what

by kefka 11y ago

Unfortunately, that's the pablum my doctor said. I have not been following my doctor's advice, as it is generally scientifically bad. I haven't went all in what was said. All meats are safe, as long as they are relatively unprocessed. When processing adds corn starch, sugar, or other carbohydrates is when the meats are not good for me. Cauliflower is perfect for me. It's also how I make "mashed potatoes". Find a frozen bag of cauliflower and cook it. Let it dry out a bit, and add butter and heavy whipping cream, and blend. 0g carb mashed potatoes. Also, How I have been testing food is "test -> eat -> blood glucose test every half hour for 3 times". Now that I have data on about 70% of what I normally eat, I don't have to test those foods. I'm much healthier now that I'm following a low carb diet of my own design. I'm eating about 0-15 g carbs a day. Surprisingly, it's similar to Atkins, but with the blood-glucose meter component. I can scientifically say that I'm doing better with regards to that dimension.

beachstartup 11y ago
try buying a whole head of cauliflower and roasting it for 45 minutes at 350F with some olive oil and salt/pepper on it. i just eat it like a steak.
noondip 11y ago
> All meats are safe Meat, processed or not, is a large risk factor in diabetes. See: Meat consumption, diabetes, and its complications. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354681 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354681 Association between dietary meat consumption and incident type 2 diabetes: the EPIC-InterAct study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22983636 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22983636 Oxygen-carrying proteins in meat and risk of diabetes mellitus. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23778318 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23778318 Relationship of dietary saturated fatty acids and body habitus to serum insulin concentrations: the Normative Aging Study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8338037 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8338037 Also, fruit and vegetables are all "carbs", so a diet with 0 carbs is utter insanity, and a recipe for poor health and disease.
- beachstartup 11y ago
  this guy always chimes in with this kind of thing - he's pushing a vegan agenda.
  - noondip 11y ago
    You have been warned by moderators before to tone down your rhetoric regarding my posts; I'm simply presenting some worthwhile research, which you should reply to on its merit, not your preconceived notion that any evidence you disagree with must be part of some agenda. That you keep painting me with a "vegan" paintbrush in order to downplay or even dismiss me gives credence to the fact you haven't actually got a scientifically tenable argument to retort with.
    - kefka 11y ago
      Frankly, I don't care about what percentage of the population gets X. Or Y. Or might get Z. In the end, those studies are nigh worthless, because they are about some statistic. When you're a doctor, a statistic is nice because they can be partially right. I want custom medicine tailored to me! Instead of meat-hating studies, show me tests I can conduct that can validate your assertions about my own body. What tests can I run reasonably? I can obtain the appropriate equipment. (I replied here because reply was off. Deleted for a proper response)
      - noondip 11y ago
        I absolutely understand where you're coming from. What about measuring LDL cholesterol (should be <75), BMI (<25), triglycerides (<150), fasting glucose (<100), and blood pressure? I think those are great biometrics for general health. Note, my posts do not constitute medical advice - I am simply sharing my experience and findings which I'm happy to have challenged.
        kefka 11y ago
        > I absolutely understand where you're coming from. What about measuring LDL cholesterol (should be <75), triglycerides (<150) It's within the ideal range, as is HDL. My triglycerides were 290mg/dL, so High. The more studying I'm doing in this area points more towards Metabolic Syndrome as well, with T2 diabetes as a result of that syndrome. No proof as of yet, just uncorroborated hypothesis. > BMI (<25) 38, but I don't look it. I'm 6'5", and I've always been off the growth charts. Now, with my current diet, I've lost 18 lbs down to 298 in 3 weeks. I am working on this. Ideally, I want 220lbs. I've been there before and I look great, lest the BMI be damned. >fasting glucose (<100) That's what I have it down to now. 3 weeks ago, it was fasting=161mg/dL . After switching to a highly restrictive carbohydrate diet, it took 6 days for my fasting to drop to 110-120mg/dL. I got sick, which is easily viewable from my data. It also corroborates from fellow Type 2's and 1's I know. Sickness causes blood glucose to get "screwy". Now, my fasting is 100mg/dL > and blood pressure? I haven't the money for an automated unit, but it is on my agenda. I do test moderately high (140/80, prior to T2 diagnosis). > I think those are great biometrics for general health. Note, my posts do not constitute medical advice - I am simply sharing my experience and findings which I'm happy to have challenged. I agree. I'm looking for even more, as well as writing software to analyze my results. Effectively, I want a system I can tell what food I'm eating, and how much. I want to do these analyses personally for me. Right now, outside of food, food quantity, speed of eating, temp, BP, heart rate, weight, and blood sugar, there isn't many ways I can get that great of data. Lab data is so sparse to be nearly pointless. I hear allegations about all sorts of foods and supplements. I want proof. I'm willing to work with others, as well as being a guinea pig (to a point). But I want to see real results. My data: https://mega.nz/#!JwcSEAwC!zPqA1zVhA3zcLwLLZRJucc6AtT9zlHfNYOM1jWXqfX4 https://mega.nz/#!JwcSEAwC!zPqA1zVhA3zcLwLLZRJucc6AtT9zlHfNY...

by kefka 11y ago

beachstartup 11y ago

try buying a whole head of cauliflower and roasting it for 45 minutes at 350F with some olive oil and salt/pepper on it. i just eat it like a steak.

noondip 11y ago

> All meats are safe Meat, processed or not, is a large risk factor in diabetes. See: Meat consumption, diabetes, and its complications. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354681 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354681 Association between dietary meat consumption and incident type 2 diabetes: the EPIC-InterAct study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22983636 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22983636 Oxygen-carrying proteins in meat and risk of diabetes mellitus. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23778318 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23778318 Relationship of dietary saturated fatty acids and body habitus to serum insulin concentrations: the Normative Aging Study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8338037 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8338037 Also, fruit and vegetables are all "carbs", so a diet with 0 carbs is utter insanity, and a recipe for poor health and disease.

beachstartup 11y ago
this guy always chimes in with this kind of thing - he's pushing a vegan agenda.
- noondip 11y ago
  You have been warned by moderators before to tone down your rhetoric regarding my posts; I'm simply presenting some worthwhile research, which you should reply to on its merit, not your preconceived notion that any evidence you disagree with must be part of some agenda. That you keep painting me with a "vegan" paintbrush in order to downplay or even dismiss me gives credence to the fact you haven't actually got a scientifically tenable argument to retort with.
  - kefka 11y ago
    Frankly, I don't care about what percentage of the population gets X. Or Y. Or might get Z. In the end, those studies are nigh worthless, because they are about some statistic. When you're a doctor, a statistic is nice because they can be partially right. I want custom medicine tailored to me! Instead of meat-hating studies, show me tests I can conduct that can validate your assertions about my own body. What tests can I run reasonably? I can obtain the appropriate equipment. (I replied here because reply was off. Deleted for a proper response)
    - noondip 11y ago
      I absolutely understand where you're coming from. What about measuring LDL cholesterol (should be <75), BMI (<25), triglycerides (<150), fasting glucose (<100), and blood pressure? I think those are great biometrics for general health. Note, my posts do not constitute medical advice - I am simply sharing my experience and findings which I'm happy to have challenged.
      - kefka 11y ago
        > I absolutely understand where you're coming from. What about measuring LDL cholesterol (should be <75), triglycerides (<150) It's within the ideal range, as is HDL. My triglycerides were 290mg/dL, so High. The more studying I'm doing in this area points more towards Metabolic Syndrome as well, with T2 diabetes as a result of that syndrome. No proof as of yet, just uncorroborated hypothesis. > BMI (<25) 38, but I don't look it. I'm 6'5", and I've always been off the growth charts. Now, with my current diet, I've lost 18 lbs down to 298 in 3 weeks. I am working on this. Ideally, I want 220lbs. I've been there before and I look great, lest the BMI be damned. >fasting glucose (<100) That's what I have it down to now. 3 weeks ago, it was fasting=161mg/dL . After switching to a highly restrictive carbohydrate diet, it took 6 days for my fasting to drop to 110-120mg/dL. I got sick, which is easily viewable from my data. It also corroborates from fellow Type 2's and 1's I know. Sickness causes blood glucose to get "screwy". Now, my fasting is 100mg/dL > and blood pressure? I haven't the money for an automated unit, but it is on my agenda. I do test moderately high (140/80, prior to T2 diagnosis). > I think those are great biometrics for general health. Note, my posts do not constitute medical advice - I am simply sharing my experience and findings which I'm happy to have challenged. I agree. I'm looking for even more, as well as writing software to analyze my results. Effectively, I want a system I can tell what food I'm eating, and how much. I want to do these analyses personally for me. Right now, outside of food, food quantity, speed of eating, temp, BP, heart rate, weight, and blood sugar, there isn't many ways I can get that great of data. Lab data is so sparse to be nearly pointless. I hear allegations about all sorts of foods and supplements. I want proof. I'm willing to work with others, as well as being a guinea pig (to a point). But I want to see real results. My data: https://mega.nz/#!JwcSEAwC!zPqA1zVhA3zcLwLLZRJucc6AtT9zlHfNYOM1jWXqfX4 https://mega.nz/#!JwcSEAwC!zPqA1zVhA3zcLwLLZRJucc6AtT9zlHfNY...