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Glad to see this story getting some coverage, hope to see more. As someone who has always opted out (when not pre-check), last week's news made me anxious of ho
by jsjohnst 11y ago
Glad to see this story getting some coverage, hope to see more. As someone who has always opted out (when not pre-check), last week's news made me anxious of how many debates I'd have to get into all over again in regards to the constitutionality of the AIT machines when flying.
Can anyone give a good reason why they don't send you through the metal detector before the pat down? If security were the objective, that seems far better to combine the two.
Sadly as we all know at this point, their mission seems to be security theater, not actual security.
- brians 11y agoYes! The legal precedent that allows them to insist on examining you hinges on then having no initial information about what you're carrying. If you cleanly pass through a metal detector, then refuse a pat-down, a court MIGHT say the TSA can't pat you down after. Similarly, the TSA officers before the screening can't be trained in detecting concealed weapons, because that might count as knowledge about whether you're armed, and a court might say that the government only gets one observation. Hence the BDOs: oh no, your honor. Those staff aren't trained to detect weapons. They're there to detect behavior! I know you asked for a good reason, and I feel embarrassed to propose this as one. But it appears to be the actual reason.
- jsjohnst 11y agoI knew of this reasoning previously, hence my using of "good reason", but none the less appreciate the reply. +1'd it as it might be educational for someone else, especially as you clearly stated the "logic" they are likely applying.