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>I don't see how this is relevant. We already accept that terrorism is not justifiable, we're discussing whether drone strikes are terrorism. I replied to this
by omonra 11y ago
>I don't see how this is relevant. We already accept that terrorism is not justifiable, we're discussing whether drone strikes are terrorism.
I replied to this comment "Ironically, much of the personnel involved in the U.S. drone program lives and works stateside, among the civilian population." My point is that the fact that drone operators live among civilian population makes no difference since no muslim (or otherwise) terrorists have tried to attack them, thus killing innocents as collateral damage - which is how civilians in Afghanistan or Pakistan are killed.
>Because being Muslim is not a terrorist's defining characteristic. One defining characteristic would be a disregard for human life.
So why are they 'people identifying as Muslims' instead of 'muslims'? Are other muslims refusing to accept them as muslim?
Separately, their religious identity is their defining characteristic. Same way that communists' who killed millions in Russia and China political affiliation was fundamental to their identity.
While we probably can't say this about middle east civil war participants, the muslim terrorists who kill people in the West are driven primarily by their religion. If they weren't, they would be small-time crooks or drug dealers at worst. Somehow their religion turned them into murderous psychopaths - let's not beat around the bush here.
- lolc 11y ago> I replied to this comment "Ironically, much of the personnel involved in the U.S. drone program lives and works stateside, among the civilian population." I think that comment was meant to convey that drone operators are hard to reach for your average terrorist. Why is it important to state that 'Muslim' terrorists have only attacked civilians so far? (A claim that is not true as I've pointed out before.) > Somehow their religion turned them into murderous psychopaths 'Somehow' some people get turned into murderous psychopaths by religion and some others do not. Is that the depth of your analysis?
- omonra 11y ago>I think that comment was meant to convey that drone operators are hard to reach for your average terrorist. Why is it important to state that 'Muslim' terrorists have only attacked civilians so far? (A claim that is not true as I've pointed out before.) I don't think that's what the comment conveyed. I believe his point was to show that US drone operators are also living in civilian areas (similar to Hamas or whatever who operate among civilians). Thus if someone were to attack them, they could claim to kill civilians purely as collateral damage. >'Somehow' some people get turned into murderous psychopaths by religion and some others do not. Is that the depth of your analysis? False. Somehow we (today - perhaps it was different around the Crusades or 100 year war in Europe) don't have a problem of Christian terrorism, Jewish terrorism or Buddhist terrorism. Yet there is a really big problem of Muslim terrorism - so there must be something in whatever version of that religion (perhaps backward but rich Saudis spreading their version of it are responsible) that's causing it.