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Similar copies are actually distributed in file sharing networks. That's what the art project is pointing to.

crimsonalucard 11y ago
And the file is worth significantly less because of said distribution. Copyright law and the general inaccessibility to these networks is what contributes to limited supply. To a person who is not afraid of the law, is morally ambiguous, and has the technical ability to access said networks, the file is worthless.
- stefantalpalaru 11y ago
  > To a person who is not afraid of the law, is morally ambiguous, and has the technical ability to access said networks, the file is worthless. You must be new to the internet. Millions of people download and read/listen to/watch those files you deem worthless.
  - crimsonalucard 11y ago
    You must be new to reality and the concept of using your brain for intelligent analysis rather then assuming the person you're talking to is a total idiot. Here's a foreign concept for you: People can download, read/listen/watch things that are worthless. For example, the air you breath. How much would you pay for it? Nothing. Therefore the air you breath is worthless. Get it? How much you want or need something is different from how much something is worth. You need air for survival more than you need clothes but because the supply of clothes is more limited than air, clothes is worth more than air. It's easy to determine the value of air relative to clothes. If I charge you a dime for the air you breath, I'm ripping you off, if I charge you a dime for a tuxedo, you're ripping me off. Therefore clothes is worth more than air even though people breathe air everyday and need it to survive. In conclusion: To determine how much something is worth you just need to look at how much people are willing to pay for it, not how much they use it. It's the law of Supply and demand.
    - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
      I think I found your problem: you're not familiar enough with the English language. Try going through this article with a dictionary at hand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_%28marketing%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_%28marketing%29
      - crimsonalucard 11y ago
        >I think I found your problem: you're not familiar enough with the English language. That's a highly offensive insult. But I'll take your bait. Lets talk about the english language and how it's used in conjunction with the word value when discussing certain topics. When we talk about marketing we use the MARKETING DEFINITION of value. When we talk about economics we use the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value. The definition of a word changes depending on the context. These are typical language concepts that exist both in the English language and other languages as well. Since we are talking about the law of supply and demand I would venture a guess that we're talking about economics rather than marketing. Thus by context and by common sense we are using the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value. See the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(economics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(economics) The quote below on "what is the definition of value?" is taken directly from the wikipedia link above and is located in the first paragraph: "the maximum amount of money a specific actor is willing and able to pay for the good or service" Try going through that sentence with a dictionary at hand.
        stefantalpalaru 11y ago
        It makes no sense to talk about the economic value of goods that are not on sale, like the air you breathe. You remember, the item you claimed it's worthless?
        crimsonalucard 11y ago
        Anything can be made for sale if there is enough demand and a limited supply. The law of supply and demand applies to everything regardless of whether or not it is for sale. If an item is not for sale it usually means there is either no supply, an unlimited supply, or no demand. See what happens when the supply of clean air is limited below: https://news.vice.com/article/beijings-air-is-so-bad-the-sale-of-fresh-canadian-mountain-air-is-soaring https://news.vice.com/article/beijings-air-is-so-bad-the-sal... >You remember, the item you claimed it's worthless? I do. What of it? There are people in this world who will pay nothing for that item because it is freely downloadable through piracy. To them, the item is worthless.

And the file is worth significantly less because of said distribution. Copyright law and the general inaccessibility to these networks is what contributes to limited supply. To a person who is not afraid of the law, is morally ambiguous, and has the technical ability to access said networks, the file is worthless.

stefantalpalaru 11y ago
> To a person who is not afraid of the law, is morally ambiguous, and has the technical ability to access said networks, the file is worthless. You must be new to the internet. Millions of people download and read/listen to/watch those files you deem worthless.
- crimsonalucard 11y ago
  You must be new to reality and the concept of using your brain for intelligent analysis rather then assuming the person you're talking to is a total idiot. Here's a foreign concept for you: People can download, read/listen/watch things that are worthless. For example, the air you breath. How much would you pay for it? Nothing. Therefore the air you breath is worthless. Get it? How much you want or need something is different from how much something is worth. You need air for survival more than you need clothes but because the supply of clothes is more limited than air, clothes is worth more than air. It's easy to determine the value of air relative to clothes. If I charge you a dime for the air you breath, I'm ripping you off, if I charge you a dime for a tuxedo, you're ripping me off. Therefore clothes is worth more than air even though people breathe air everyday and need it to survive. In conclusion: To determine how much something is worth you just need to look at how much people are willing to pay for it, not how much they use it. It's the law of Supply and demand.
  - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
    I think I found your problem: you're not familiar enough with the English language. Try going through this article with a dictionary at hand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_%28marketing%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_%28marketing%29
    - crimsonalucard 11y ago
      >I think I found your problem: you're not familiar enough with the English language. That's a highly offensive insult. But I'll take your bait. Lets talk about the english language and how it's used in conjunction with the word value when discussing certain topics. When we talk about marketing we use the MARKETING DEFINITION of value. When we talk about economics we use the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value. The definition of a word changes depending on the context. These are typical language concepts that exist both in the English language and other languages as well. Since we are talking about the law of supply and demand I would venture a guess that we're talking about economics rather than marketing. Thus by context and by common sense we are using the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value. See the ECONOMIC DEFINITION of value below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(economics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(economics) The quote below on "what is the definition of value?" is taken directly from the wikipedia link above and is located in the first paragraph: "the maximum amount of money a specific actor is willing and able to pay for the good or service" Try going through that sentence with a dictionary at hand.
      - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
        It makes no sense to talk about the economic value of goods that are not on sale, like the air you breathe. You remember, the item you claimed it's worthless?
        crimsonalucard 11y ago
        Anything can be made for sale if there is enough demand and a limited supply. The law of supply and demand applies to everything regardless of whether or not it is for sale. If an item is not for sale it usually means there is either no supply, an unlimited supply, or no demand. See what happens when the supply of clean air is limited below: https://news.vice.com/article/beijings-air-is-so-bad-the-sale-of-fresh-canadian-mountain-air-is-soaring https://news.vice.com/article/beijings-air-is-so-bad-the-sal... >You remember, the item you claimed it's worthless? I do. What of it? There are people in this world who will pay nothing for that item because it is freely downloadable through piracy. To them, the item is worthless.