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Show HN: CodeUpStart – Learn Python/Flask by Cloning Kickstarter

95 points by gilliant 11y ago

wwwhizz 11y ago
Looks broken to me?
- tsaprailis 11y ago
  Broken how? Works fine for me.
- deleted 11y ago
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stephanheijl 11y ago
This page refuses to load if you are blocking tracking web services. If you are using AdBlock or Ghostery, you will need to pause them, or at least disable blocking of Disqus. A tad weird, because the Disqus chat only shows up in the final tab of the entire page...
- pennaMan 11y ago
  No issues here, using uBlock with default filters.
  - ubernostrum 11y ago
    I use uBlock Origin and also block all cookies except an explicit whitelist. It's a blank page for me.
- deleted 11y ago
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Ronsenshi 11y ago
Yeah, just as others mentioned - content won't load if you have Ghostery on. Content is tied to Disqus which has to be loaded for content to be shown.
lkiernan 11y ago
The site pages load for me, but not the linked-to page. Click the logo.
trymas 11y ago
Just a little rant from me. How's Flask holding up? - No new version for 2.5 years. - almost 1000 commits since then. - More than half PR's are more than 6 months old. - I heard documentation is lagging behind for the features implemented (?) But it's still popular and recommended for beginners (many tutorials and such). I understand it's use for micro services, though what if your micro service or small app expands? AFAIK, plugin ecosystem is healthy, though do all plugins are ready if v1.0 would be released tomorrow? So all in all , personally, Flask looks in rather chaotic state. I am just genuinely curious.
- icebraining 11y ago
  The original author (mitsuhiko) replies to that same concern here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/3xi6o9/whats_the_future_of_flask/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/3xi6o9/whats_the_fu...
- poooogles 11y ago
  icebraining has linked mitsuhiko's reply, but in addition to that... >I understand it's use for micro services, though what if your micro service or small app expands? Largely the point of microservices is they don't expand, you just create another one. Adding features just results in a huge monolith.
- the_mitsuhiko 11y ago
  > - I heard documentation is lagging behind for the features implemented (?) Development docs are here: http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/dev/ http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/dev/
- level09 11y ago
  I think it is doing great. Not a lot of features and versions like other frameworks but that's not exactly an objective measurement of the quality of the framework. - We have used Flask recently at a very large media corporation to build a social network. - I have also reviewed a book for Flask earlier and getting a lot of inquiries and requests regarding tutorials and video courses. - Team Tree House added a full course on Flask (very good one).
jkkorn 11y ago
This is a great project idea! Cloning existing websites feels way more motivating than just typing away on interactive terminals. Looking forward to more projects.
- bramm 11y ago
  The sad irony is this startup is a "clone" (rip off) of https://code4startup.com https://code4startup.com.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - shady_trails 11y ago
    That is hurtful to say. While the two products are in a similar space, neither can claim to have a monopoly on internet-based tech education. Project-based learning like this is a goldmine for anyone looking to get into web dev. It makes sense to have a wide range of providers of such training.
    - bramm 11y ago
      While you're statement is true in a general sense, in this specific situation, CodeUpstart was founded by someone who worked for Code4Startup for only a few weeks. I follow Leo on Twitter, and there's plenty of evidence. Working together: https://twitter.com/gilliantee/status/659751559622885377 https://twitter.com/gilliantee/status/659751559622885377 Not working together: https://twitter.com/eugeneteo/status/678373859838459904 https://twitter.com/eugeneteo/status/678373859838459904 A similar idea is fine, but this doesn't look like a coincidence.
- pbreit 11y ago
  Disagree. No one actually needs to build a Kickstarter clone. So it's a total throwaway project. Why not some sort of publishing, discussion, blogging, selling, analyzing, etc tool? Something that someone could actually use?
nickjj 11y ago
I don't want to be a downer here, but after looking at the curriculum, it doesn't seem like you handle key components of Kickstarter, such as handling payments or being able to message your backers in bulk. These are features which make Kickstarter Kickstarter IMO. From the curriculum list, it looks like you basically teach people how to save a form that has a couple of fields to a database. Is the curriculum still a WIP, or is this only 5% of the course where the rest will be behind a paywall?
- gilliant 11y ago
  No worries at all! This currently is a starter version and after validating demand we're hard at work now producing the full version with payments, pledges, etc. WIP. :)
bramm 11y ago
Sadly, this is a total ripoff of Code 4 Startup: https://code4startup.com https://code4startup.com Not just the same idea, or similar design. Look at their projects! It really bothers me that this is getting so much attention and that they're backed by 500 Startups, who didn't do their due diligence.
- deleted 11y ago
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- gordonzhu 11y ago
  Based on code4startup this is a copy. https://twitter.com/Code4Startup/status/678340473614761984 https://twitter.com/Code4Startup/status/678340473614761984 What's weird is the founder/ceo of codeupstart used to work for code4startup.
  - bramm 11y ago
    Yes! I've been following the Code4Startup founder, Leo, since he first launched it. It's a great boostrapped story. I was excited for him when he announced he added someone to help, then sad for him when she wasted no time stealing it and raising funding. Shady.
  - bramm 11y ago
    November 30th, she's retweeting about Code 4 Startup: https://twitter.com/JoeMinock/status/671395288830107648 https://twitter.com/JoeMinock/status/671395288830107648 December 3rd, she's tweeting about CodeUpstart joining 500 Startups: https://twitter.com/CodeUpStart/status/672509204737822720 https://twitter.com/CodeUpStart/status/672509204737822720
    - swcoders 11y ago
      I think code4startup is also stole idea from http://www.codingfounders.com/ http://www.codingfounders.com/ It does not matter in idea it is matter to execution. I hope codeupstartup will remain free so that many users and student can benefit from it.
dalacv 11y ago
You should get a version of this on Udemy.com (can't be the exact same, due to their policies). Nothing wrong with a little passive income, eh?.
duked 11y ago
I like tutorial but I'm personally not fond of videos. I would enjoy the tutorial if it was a simple html page or even a pdf. Is it just me? Or most people prefer videos ?
- reitanqild 11y ago
  I'm with you.
amyjess 11y ago
I'm just getting a page about something called "iron:router".

95 points by gilliant 11y ago

wwwhizz 11y ago

Looks broken to me?

tsaprailis 11y ago
Broken how? Works fine for me.
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]

stephanheijl 11y ago

This page refuses to load if you are blocking tracking web services. If you are using AdBlock or Ghostery, you will need to pause them, or at least disable blocking of Disqus. A tad weird, because the Disqus chat only shows up in the final tab of the entire page...

pennaMan 11y ago
No issues here, using uBlock with default filters.
- ubernostrum 11y ago
  I use uBlock Origin and also block all cookies except an explicit whitelist. It's a blank page for me.
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]

Ronsenshi 11y ago

Yeah, just as others mentioned - content won't load if you have Ghostery on. Content is tied to Disqus which has to be loaded for content to be shown.

lkiernan 11y ago

The site pages load for me, but not the linked-to page. Click the logo.

trymas 11y ago

Just a little rant from me. How's Flask holding up? - No new version for 2.5 years. - almost 1000 commits since then. - More than half PR's are more than 6 months old. - I heard documentation is lagging behind for the features implemented (?) But it's still popular and recommended for beginners (many tutorials and such). I understand it's use for micro services, though what if your micro service or small app expands? AFAIK, plugin ecosystem is healthy, though do all plugins are ready if v1.0 would be released tomorrow? So all in all , personally, Flask looks in rather chaotic state. I am just genuinely curious.

icebraining 11y ago
The original author (mitsuhiko) replies to that same concern here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/3xi6o9/whats_the_future_of_flask/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/3xi6o9/whats_the_fu...
poooogles 11y ago
icebraining has linked mitsuhiko's reply, but in addition to that... >I understand it's use for micro services, though what if your micro service or small app expands? Largely the point of microservices is they don't expand, you just create another one. Adding features just results in a huge monolith.
the_mitsuhiko 11y ago
> - I heard documentation is lagging behind for the features implemented (?) Development docs are here: http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/dev/ http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/dev/
level09 11y ago
I think it is doing great. Not a lot of features and versions like other frameworks but that's not exactly an objective measurement of the quality of the framework. - We have used Flask recently at a very large media corporation to build a social network. - I have also reviewed a book for Flask earlier and getting a lot of inquiries and requests regarding tutorials and video courses. - Team Tree House added a full course on Flask (very good one).

jkkorn 11y ago

This is a great project idea! Cloning existing websites feels way more motivating than just typing away on interactive terminals. Looking forward to more projects.

bramm 11y ago
The sad irony is this startup is a "clone" (rip off) of https://code4startup.com https://code4startup.com.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- shady_trails 11y ago
  That is hurtful to say. While the two products are in a similar space, neither can claim to have a monopoly on internet-based tech education. Project-based learning like this is a goldmine for anyone looking to get into web dev. It makes sense to have a wide range of providers of such training.
  - bramm 11y ago
    While you're statement is true in a general sense, in this specific situation, CodeUpstart was founded by someone who worked for Code4Startup for only a few weeks. I follow Leo on Twitter, and there's plenty of evidence. Working together: https://twitter.com/gilliantee/status/659751559622885377 https://twitter.com/gilliantee/status/659751559622885377 Not working together: https://twitter.com/eugeneteo/status/678373859838459904 https://twitter.com/eugeneteo/status/678373859838459904 A similar idea is fine, but this doesn't look like a coincidence.
pbreit 11y ago
Disagree. No one actually needs to build a Kickstarter clone. So it's a total throwaway project. Why not some sort of publishing, discussion, blogging, selling, analyzing, etc tool? Something that someone could actually use?

nickjj 11y ago

I don't want to be a downer here, but after looking at the curriculum, it doesn't seem like you handle key components of Kickstarter, such as handling payments or being able to message your backers in bulk. These are features which make Kickstarter Kickstarter IMO. From the curriculum list, it looks like you basically teach people how to save a form that has a couple of fields to a database. Is the curriculum still a WIP, or is this only 5% of the course where the rest will be behind a paywall?

gilliant 11y ago
No worries at all! This currently is a starter version and after validating demand we're hard at work now producing the full version with payments, pledges, etc. WIP. :)

bramm 11y ago

Sadly, this is a total ripoff of Code 4 Startup: https://code4startup.com https://code4startup.com Not just the same idea, or similar design. Look at their projects! It really bothers me that this is getting so much attention and that they're backed by 500 Startups, who didn't do their due diligence.

deleted 11y ago
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gordonzhu 11y ago
Based on code4startup this is a copy. https://twitter.com/Code4Startup/status/678340473614761984 https://twitter.com/Code4Startup/status/678340473614761984 What's weird is the founder/ceo of codeupstart used to work for code4startup.
- bramm 11y ago
  Yes! I've been following the Code4Startup founder, Leo, since he first launched it. It's a great boostrapped story. I was excited for him when he announced he added someone to help, then sad for him when she wasted no time stealing it and raising funding. Shady.
- bramm 11y ago
  November 30th, she's retweeting about Code 4 Startup: https://twitter.com/JoeMinock/status/671395288830107648 https://twitter.com/JoeMinock/status/671395288830107648 December 3rd, she's tweeting about CodeUpstart joining 500 Startups: https://twitter.com/CodeUpStart/status/672509204737822720 https://twitter.com/CodeUpStart/status/672509204737822720
  - swcoders 11y ago
    I think code4startup is also stole idea from http://www.codingfounders.com/ http://www.codingfounders.com/ It does not matter in idea it is matter to execution. I hope codeupstartup will remain free so that many users and student can benefit from it.

dalacv 11y ago

You should get a version of this on Udemy.com (can't be the exact same, due to their policies). Nothing wrong with a little passive income, eh?.

duked 11y ago

I like tutorial but I'm personally not fond of videos. I would enjoy the tutorial if it was a simple html page or even a pdf. Is it just me? Or most people prefer videos ?

reitanqild 11y ago
I'm with you.

amyjess 11y ago

I'm just getting a page about something called "iron:router".