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That's ignoring entirely the possibility of children, grand-children, nephews and nieces etc. Plenty of opportunity for meaningful relationships with younger g

That's ignoring entirely the possibility of children, grand-children, nephews and nieces etc. Plenty of opportunity for meaningful relationships with younger generations.

crusso 11y ago
The fact that the author is 34 and the notion that future relationships with children weren't even mentioned is a fairly telling comment on the evolution of society.
- chiefofgxbxl 11y ago
  Adults are quick to write off that kids are not part of the "real world": e.g. "When you graduate school and enter the real world, (insert something about responsibilities or work)." I'm sure it is a combination of school, parenting, and distracting technology (iPads given to 5 year olds), among other factors, that marginalize the youth into a different world in which adults cannot interact with them, and the prospect of having a meaningful discussion with a young person is out the window.
  - fao_ 11y ago
    There is also the point that the fact that the adults are writing off the children means that they are less likely to start/join a meaningful discussion with them. I have had the joy of meeting and having meaningful and deep (Mostly philosophical) conversations with many young people (Of the age ranges of 6 -> 16), and I haven't found them to be in a 'different world' at all. Perhaps it is lack of control of environments, and lack of adults that treat them like actual people, that produces children that are marginalized and 'in a different world'?
- nostrademons 11y ago
  It is a fairly telling comment on the evolution of the author. Unless you're fond of generalizing from a sample set of 1, it gives you virtually no information on the evolution of society.
  - crusso 11y ago
    The article was upvoted to the front page of HN by more than 1.
coldtea 11y ago
Even if you have children, you won't see them that much after their first 18 years, for the same reasons the author doesn't see his parents much. And you certainly wont be seeing your grand-children, nephews and nieces as much as you saw your parents and siblings in the first 20 years of your life. Except if you live in the same small town, nearby houses, etc. Heck, between school, game consoles, smartphones and whatever will be out by then, good luck seeing much of your 12 year olds and older too...

That's ignoring entirely the possibility of children, grand-children, nephews and nieces etc. Plenty of opportunity for meaningful relationships with younger generations.

crusso 11y ago

The fact that the author is 34 and the notion that future relationships with children weren't even mentioned is a fairly telling comment on the evolution of society.

chiefofgxbxl 11y ago
Adults are quick to write off that kids are not part of the "real world": e.g. "When you graduate school and enter the real world, (insert something about responsibilities or work)." I'm sure it is a combination of school, parenting, and distracting technology (iPads given to 5 year olds), among other factors, that marginalize the youth into a different world in which adults cannot interact with them, and the prospect of having a meaningful discussion with a young person is out the window.
- fao_ 11y ago
  There is also the point that the fact that the adults are writing off the children means that they are less likely to start/join a meaningful discussion with them. I have had the joy of meeting and having meaningful and deep (Mostly philosophical) conversations with many young people (Of the age ranges of 6 -> 16), and I haven't found them to be in a 'different world' at all. Perhaps it is lack of control of environments, and lack of adults that treat them like actual people, that produces children that are marginalized and 'in a different world'?
nostrademons 11y ago
It is a fairly telling comment on the evolution of the author. Unless you're fond of generalizing from a sample set of 1, it gives you virtually no information on the evolution of society.
- crusso 11y ago
  The article was upvoted to the front page of HN by more than 1.

coldtea 11y ago

Even if you have children, you won't see them that much after their first 18 years, for the same reasons the author doesn't see his parents much. And you certainly wont be seeing your grand-children, nephews and nieces as much as you saw your parents and siblings in the first 20 years of your life. Except if you live in the same small town, nearby houses, etc. Heck, between school, game consoles, smartphones and whatever will be out by then, good luck seeing much of your 12 year olds and older too...