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Is it possible to set up a mirror of debian core repositories that do use cumulative diff, so that end users can use that repository instead? I'd be happy to t

by zodiac 11y ago

Is it possible to set up a mirror of debian core repositories that do use cumulative diff, so that end users can use that repository instead? I'd be happy to try and configure/host such a thing if there's no difficulties.

saurik 11y ago
Someone just needs to talk to the Debian people about fixing this. Honestly, I thought this was fixed two years ago, but a friend of mine (one who works in the Cydia ecosystem, ironically), was complaining about diff updates a couple weeks ago, and it turns out it was not. I mostly outsourced "upstreaming to distributions" (as opposed to to projects) to a friend of mine who now works for RightScale, and so I never really gained for myself the right contacts in that beurocracy, but if no one else does I should probably get around to sending this suggestion to them...
- sandGorgon 11y ago
  Just asking, have you gotten one of the Debian CTTE guys to file a top level proposal (just like the systemd proposal https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708). I think you are one of the few people that truly understand the ecosystem and probably are the right person to influence this. Incidentally, I had a pretty interesting bthread today on the question bwhether we will see a single package manager format on Linux. Wonder what your thoughts are...and in general the state of package management on Linux. Would you build Cydia on something else today?
  - JoshTriplett 11y ago
    The technical committee isn't necessary unless you've already asked and been told "no". The ftpmasters and the apt maintainers would be the appropriate pair of contacts.
  - kasabali 11y ago
    CTTE is when you have a dispute over a technical decision. From my reading above comments, there is no conflict but just lack of interest.
julian-klode 11y ago
You don't really need cumulative diffs anymore. Sure, they would be nice to have, but with pipelining and client-side merging of the patches before applying, things are not that much slower.
- julian-klode 11y ago
  I have to take that back. For Contents-Source, it's ugly. The rest is fine though.

by zodiac 11y ago

saurik 11y ago

Someone just needs to talk to the Debian people about fixing this. Honestly, I thought this was fixed two years ago, but a friend of mine (one who works in the Cydia ecosystem, ironically), was complaining about diff updates a couple weeks ago, and it turns out it was not. I mostly outsourced "upstreaming to distributions" (as opposed to to projects) to a friend of mine who now works for RightScale, and so I never really gained for myself the right contacts in that beurocracy, but if no one else does I should probably get around to sending this suggestion to them...

sandGorgon 11y ago
Just asking, have you gotten one of the Debian CTTE guys to file a top level proposal (just like the systemd proposal https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708). I think you are one of the few people that truly understand the ecosystem and probably are the right person to influence this. Incidentally, I had a pretty interesting bthread today on the question bwhether we will see a single package manager format on Linux. Wonder what your thoughts are...and in general the state of package management on Linux. Would you build Cydia on something else today?
- JoshTriplett 11y ago
  The technical committee isn't necessary unless you've already asked and been told "no". The ftpmasters and the apt maintainers would be the appropriate pair of contacts.
- kasabali 11y ago
  CTTE is when you have a dispute over a technical decision. From my reading above comments, there is no conflict but just lack of interest.

julian-klode 11y ago

You don't really need cumulative diffs anymore. Sure, they would be nice to have, but with pipelining and client-side merging of the patches before applying, things are not that much slower.

julian-klode 11y ago
I have to take that back. For Contents-Source, it's ugly. The rest is fine though.