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"Use a desktop player! Browsers and video doesn't go together well, even in 2015 and especially when it's live. So for your best viewing experience please use a

"Use a desktop player! Browsers and video doesn't go together well, even in 2015 and especially when it's live. So for your best viewing experience please use a desktop player like VLC or mplayer." Am I the only one to be bothered by this comment.

dijit 11y ago
Why are you bothered by it. It's true. HTML5 live streaming is only reasonably done by Apple and only works in Safari. I wouldn't push flash video streaming if I were them either. Which leaves streaming over http (not using the browser) or rtmp
- DaGardner 11y ago
  I have no problem streaming with Chrome Mobile iOS... Works really well.
- kzrdude 11y ago
  Firefox works fine, vlc does not. Not bothered though.
  - dijit 11y ago
    Fair enough. I've been trying to do live streaming in an automated fashion and always failed. Mostly it's apples way or the flash way. Everything else is absurdly hard to maintain.
- rst 11y ago
  Firefox's built-in mp4 player is working for me well, for both live streams and recordings (the "re-live" section of streaming, which has all the talks that happened before folks in America woke up). So, they're at: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/ http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/ BTW, there's also a flash player for the "re-live" stuff, which isn't working for me on Linux at all; if you're having trouble with it, try the mp4s. (Just as well; I get to shove the flash-enabled browser profile back in its box.)
  - fivre 11y ago
    For me Firefox seems to be doing some weird thing with the live video where you'll watch it and it will get stuck due to congestion or whatever, and then refreshing the page appears to restart the video from the beginning until the point where it broke. Very odd.
- wolf550e 11y ago
  MPEG DASH works as well as Apple HLS, and does not require flash on modern browsers (it does require some javascript AFAIK). It works on desktop Safari but not iOS.
barbs 11y ago
Yeah I don't really get this...seems to work well enough in Chrome. What am I missing?
atze 11y ago
What you're missing: - multiple audio tracks for different languages - support of captions - support of multi-resolution/bitrate streams (like DASH) - support for "multi-view" or however you want to call it: the viewer chooses wether to see speaker, slides or both - ....
MaZderMind 11y ago
It actually works pretty well, about 70% consume our WebM Streams and the remaining 30% consume the MP4/HLS stream, either with Apple-Hardware or ffplay/vlc/mplayer.
- MaZderMind 11y ago
  It's more a warning that, if it doesn't work for you, you should try a desktop-player before crying on twitter :P
ba1020 11y ago
VLC ans SMplayer work well with SD
ba1020 11y ago
VLC ans SMplayer work well with SD
jojoo 11y ago
With mplayer and vlc you can manually adjust the cache size. 8mb worked quite well the last years

dijit 11y ago

Why are you bothered by it. It's true. HTML5 live streaming is only reasonably done by Apple and only works in Safari. I wouldn't push flash video streaming if I were them either. Which leaves streaming over http (not using the browser) or rtmp

DaGardner 11y ago
I have no problem streaming with Chrome Mobile iOS... Works really well.
kzrdude 11y ago
Firefox works fine, vlc does not. Not bothered though.
- dijit 11y ago
  Fair enough. I've been trying to do live streaming in an automated fashion and always failed. Mostly it's apples way or the flash way. Everything else is absurdly hard to maintain.
rst 11y ago
Firefox's built-in mp4 player is working for me well, for both live streams and recordings (the "re-live" section of streaming, which has all the talks that happened before folks in America woke up). So, they're at: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/ http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/ BTW, there's also a flash player for the "re-live" stuff, which isn't working for me on Linux at all; if you're having trouble with it, try the mp4s. (Just as well; I get to shove the flash-enabled browser profile back in its box.)
- fivre 11y ago
  For me Firefox seems to be doing some weird thing with the live video where you'll watch it and it will get stuck due to congestion or whatever, and then refreshing the page appears to restart the video from the beginning until the point where it broke. Very odd.
wolf550e 11y ago
MPEG DASH works as well as Apple HLS, and does not require flash on modern browsers (it does require some javascript AFAIK). It works on desktop Safari but not iOS.

barbs 11y ago

Yeah I don't really get this...seems to work well enough in Chrome. What am I missing?

atze 11y ago

What you're missing: - multiple audio tracks for different languages - support of captions - support of multi-resolution/bitrate streams (like DASH) - support for "multi-view" or however you want to call it: the viewer chooses wether to see speaker, slides or both - ....

MaZderMind 11y ago

It actually works pretty well, about 70% consume our WebM Streams and the remaining 30% consume the MP4/HLS stream, either with Apple-Hardware or ffplay/vlc/mplayer.

MaZderMind 11y ago
It's more a warning that, if it doesn't work for you, you should try a desktop-player before crying on twitter :P

ba1020 11y ago

VLC ans SMplayer work well with SD

ba1020 11y ago

VLC ans SMplayer work well with SD

jojoo 11y ago

With mplayer and vlc you can manually adjust the cache size. 8mb worked quite well the last years