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Haha, these people again? The members of the UN Human Rights Council are like a who's who of oppressive or failed states. Members include: China, Russia, Cuba,

Haha, these people again? The members of the UN Human Rights Council are like a who's who of oppressive or failed states. Members include: China, Russia, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bolivia, the Congo, Venezuela, Ecuador, the UAE, and Kyrgyzstan. When they're not attacking Israel (which is a permanent agenda item at every single meeting) or hosting Hamas politicians, they're advocating for the prohibition of "defamation of religion", which is code for prohibiting criticism of Islam.

DanBC 11y ago
And yet they say this: >> United Nations experts warned today that the extreme polarization of US politics is “profoundly” affecting Which people like you should probably pay attention to.
- marcoperaza 11y ago
  Maybe, just maybe, that polarization is caused by a false narrative of gender and racial exploitation that does not align with reality. It is in-part perpetuated by organizations similar to this that dress themselves up with legitimacy ("UN Experts"), but are really only interested in a political agenda.
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HillRat 11y ago
UNHRC isn't OHCHR. The former is more like HFAC, the latter more like a State working group -- in other words, politicians vs professionals.
- marcoperaza 11y ago
  Edit: I originally acknowledged my mistake, but upon closer inspection, I was actually not mistaken. This Working Group was commissioned and appointed by the Human Rights Council, the one with zero credibility. http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=16872&LangID=E http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?Ne... (see the italic bit near the end). Other half of original reply because it's still relevant: Nonetheless, I'm suspicious of a report that cites flawed statistics, such as a gender wage gap of 79 cents on the dollar, as evidence of discrimination and denial of rights. See my comment and sources here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10785515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10785515 . Equal rights does not mean equal outcomes because, even in the case of equal ability and opportunity, people have different preferences. This report is nonetheless equating those.
  - HillRat 11y ago
    I think those are totally valid objections -- the microeconomic research remains equivocal on gender pay gap differences and, while I firmly believe that American politics and policies regarding women's rights are marching boldly backwards, I also think this is more than a bit of grandstanding (I admire many UN professionals, but there are plenty of excitable activists amongst their peers, though both professionals and rabble-rousers are outweighed by the clock punchers. Bureaucracy, don't you ever change). Also, the UN org chart looks like a bowl of spaghetti, so remembering who is what and when is an absolute pain.

DanBC 11y ago

And yet they say this: >> United Nations experts warned today that the extreme polarization of US politics is “profoundly” affecting Which people like you should probably pay attention to.

marcoperaza 11y ago
Maybe, just maybe, that polarization is caused by a false narrative of gender and racial exploitation that does not align with reality. It is in-part perpetuated by organizations similar to this that dress themselves up with legitimacy ("UN Experts"), but are really only interested in a political agenda.
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HillRat 11y ago

UNHRC isn't OHCHR. The former is more like HFAC, the latter more like a State working group -- in other words, politicians vs professionals.

marcoperaza 11y ago
Edit: I originally acknowledged my mistake, but upon closer inspection, I was actually not mistaken. This Working Group was commissioned and appointed by the Human Rights Council, the one with zero credibility. http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=16872&LangID=E http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?Ne... (see the italic bit near the end). Other half of original reply because it's still relevant: Nonetheless, I'm suspicious of a report that cites flawed statistics, such as a gender wage gap of 79 cents on the dollar, as evidence of discrimination and denial of rights. See my comment and sources here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10785515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10785515 . Equal rights does not mean equal outcomes because, even in the case of equal ability and opportunity, people have different preferences. This report is nonetheless equating those.
- HillRat 11y ago
  I think those are totally valid objections -- the microeconomic research remains equivocal on gender pay gap differences and, while I firmly believe that American politics and policies regarding women's rights are marching boldly backwards, I also think this is more than a bit of grandstanding (I admire many UN professionals, but there are plenty of excitable activists amongst their peers, though both professionals and rabble-rousers are outweighed by the clock punchers. Bureaucracy, don't you ever change). Also, the UN org chart looks like a bowl of spaghetti, so remembering who is what and when is an absolute pain.