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In the US, the job training program that doesn't "waste" your time with general education is an associate's degree. Where bachelor's degrees are required, it s
by superuser2 11y ago
In the US, the job training program that doesn't "waste" your time with general education is an associate's degree.
Where bachelor's degrees are required, it should be because the additional requirements (like critical thinking and communication skills, command of English, breadth of knowledge outside your chosen field) are actually important. Perhaps it isn't, but it should be.
- marktangotango 11y agoIn my personal example, the requirements were 4 auditorium style humanities electives. Where is the value to the student or anyone BUT the university in those? I'm pretty sure honors grads from England or Australia would be offended by your equating they're degrees to AS degrees.
- superuser2 11y agoIndeed, auditorium lectures are a terrible way to teach humanities, that's why expensive and highly selective private schools have a claim to providing a higher quality education. Those classes are taught in discussions of 18 kids and a professor around a conference table. This is expensive, but there's no reason it should be restricted to the wealth or intellectual top-10% as it currently is. Just public opposition, driven in large part by the STEM crowd. Germany at least has a 13th grade. I expect the burden of general education is simply shifted to high schools. You can make a C average and graduate high school in the US while barely literate; I expect that's not the same in England and Australia. I know that in Germany, smart kids fail Gymnasium classes routinely: like college, to pass you have to have actually learned something. In my experience at a very good public high school in the US you had to be brain dead or not trying to make less than a C+ in most things.
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