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Have these studies been reproduced elsewhere, or is it a singular group of researchers extolling the virtues of meditation?
by Laaw 11y ago
Have these studies been reproduced elsewhere, or is it a singular group of researchers extolling the virtues of meditation?
- nunodonato 11y agoas a 10+ yr practitioner, studies are useless. practice it and test it by yourself, no harm done and a lot to gain ;)
- cbd1984 11y agoThis is how pseudoscience takes root. You are the easiest person for you to fool.
- erokar 11y agoYes, God forbid you fool yourself into feeling good and relaxed.
- eternauta3k 11y agoPlaceboing myself into emotional control and improved attention sounds like a good deal.
- DanBC 11y agobut you don't know if you're actually getting emotional control or improved attention.
- cbd1984 11y agoNo, God forbid I forgo some better therapy.
- fit2rule 11y agoIts also how science fails to take root: by discouraging people from trying things, just because it hasn't been rubber-stamped by the authorities yet ..
- nunodonato 11y agoexactly. science is sad sometimes, just like any other religion, it creates walls that some people get stuck inside of... waiting for some kind of "approval" by its priests
- cristianpascu 11y agoIt seems that you get BOTH science and religion wrong. People are free and influence each other. That's a basic assumption we should take into account when understanding social phenomena. Start of story.
- cbd1984 11y agoIf you think science is a religion, you're grossly misinformed about what science is.
- niccaluim 11y ago"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation." - William Paley
- zafka 11y agoI have always loved that quote, now I find I have been mis-attributing it for close to 30 years... For quite some time it had been attributed to Herbert Spencer
- huxley 11y agoThis is the same William Paley (1743–1805) who proposed the watchmaker analogy arguing that complexity in nature was teleological evidence of a creator or intelligent designer.
- cbd1984 11y agoThis is how science keeps people safe. Bullshit kills: http://whatstheharm.net/ http://whatstheharm.net/
- qrendel 11y agoIt's not really "no harm done" - the opportunity cost of wasting time that could be spent on other activities is a deterrent, for me at least.
- Tharkun 11y agoWorst case scenario: you spend half an hour day relaxing. Doesn't seem like a terrible waste of time.
- DanBC 11y agoWorst case scenario: you persist in a course of treatment that has no evidence of efficacy rather than get treatment with some evidence of efficacy.
- obstacle1 11y agoMeditation isn't solely or even primarily a method for treating things.
- DanBC 11y agoThe article is full of examples of meditation being used to treat mental and physical ill-health. >> Putting meditation to the test >> “Training allows us to transform the mind, to overcome destructive emotions and to dispel suffering,” says Buddhist monk Matthieu Ricard. >> and tested the effects of different meditative practices on cognition, behaviour, physical and emotional health and brain plasticity. >> It suggests that meditation can indeed change aspects of your psychology, temperament and physical health in dramatic ways. >> watching for changes in their mental abilities, psychological health and physiology. >> at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, >> meditation seems to have an effect on emotional well-being. A second study from researchers with the Shamatha project, to appear in the journal Emotion, concluded that meditation improves general social and emotional functioning, making study participants less anxious, and more aware of and better able to manage their emotions. >> The ability to manage one’s emotions could also be key to why meditation can improve physical health. Studies have shown it to be an effective treatment for eating disorders, substance abuse, psoriasis and in particular for recurrent depression and chronic pain. etc etc.
- davzie 11y agoCan confirm, I worry about where I might have gone if it hadn't been for meditation pulling me out. It's impossible to put into words what it does for you, you're right, you just have to try it without any pre-conceived notion of what you want to get from it which for some, is too wild an idea.
- meagain20000 11y agoDevil's advocate here. Lots people say the same thing about religion. In fact, you could almost replace meditation with religion in your comment. Quite illuminating.
- mbrock 11y agoAnd it's probably true for religion too. That doesn't constitute a counterargument. The negative aspects of religion (for example, you can argue that religious faith is exclusionary and confusing, and so on) don't carry over to meditation just because they have something in common.
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- cbd1984 11y agoThis is how homeopathy has hung on as long as it has. Thinking like this kills people. http://whatstheharm.net/ http://whatstheharm.net/ Also, am I the only one who sees a massive conflict of interest in a practitioner saying their field doesn't need to be investigated?
- tdaltonc 11y agoHere's a good review article to start you off. https://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleID=1809754 https://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleID=1809...