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What I was lampooning is not simple opportunity, but downright manipulation, as benevolent as it may seem. That's the difference between allowing a child and en
by stefantalpalaru 11y ago
What I was lampooning is not simple opportunity, but downright manipulation, as benevolent as it may seem. That's the difference between allowing a child and encouraging/cajoling them to do something.
When you mount a huge campaign to get girls to code, even if they are not interested, are you doing the former or the latter? What about when you do the same for hiring more women in certain areas? Or for getting more women presenters in certain technical conferences?
And if we as a community decided that we should feel bad for being interested in things that overwhelmingly attract males, why not extrapolate the proposed solution? Maybe it gets absurd enough that we realize it's been wrong all this time.
- raiph 11y ago> downright manipulation ... huge campaign ... get girls to code, even if they are not interested ... decided that we should feel bad ... things that overwhelmingly attract males ... why not extrapolate That's an impressive amount of speculating. > Maybe it gets absurd enough that we realize Indeed.
- stefantalpalaru 11y ago> That's an impressive amount of speculating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_Who_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_Who_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girls_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Girls_Code https://www.womentechmakers.com/ https://www.womentechmakers.com/ http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/originals/ct-facebook-techprep-bsi-20151020-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/originals/ct-facebook-... https://hackbrightacademy.com/about/ https://hackbrightacademy.com/about/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/women https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/women
- raiph 11y agoMy apologies. I had assumed that what you were talking about had something to do with either Perl 6 or Camelia.