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This is a clickbait and deceptive title. It should read "Rakudo Perl 6.0 Support Added" or at best "Rakudo Perl 6.0 Released".

sundarurfriend 11y ago
I don't know if this is what you're referring to, but found this in TLA: > To be clear on that point, this Rakudo release is not considered the primary deliverable for this Christmas; it is the language specification, known as "roast" (Repository Of All Spec Tests), that is considered the primary deliverable.
latenightcoding 11y ago
https://twitter.com/TimToady/status/680511168713064448 https://twitter.com/TimToady/status/680511168713064448
kbenson 11y ago
What? I'm fairly certain you are mistaken on quite a lot of details. Larry Wall is behind this release, and even though this is one implementation of Perl 6, that's an intentional difference between Perl 5 and Perl 6. There is no one implementation, just a set of specs and few projects aiming to implement those specs. Rakudo is at this time the most mature implementation, and the specs have been finalized so that a "1.0" version of Perl 6 can be released with an implementation that works.
- eugenekolo2 11y ago
  I wasn't aware that Perl 6 was going to be projects aiming to implement a spec. Nonetheless, I find the title to be misleading, it can be phrased better and more specific. As Larry Wall says in the tweets below, it'd be more exact to say "A Perl 6 Compiler and Test Suite Released".
raiph 11y ago
I can see why this stuff is confusing. Perhaps the following will help reduce some of the confusion and highlight what's important. First, about the title: 1. The article's original title was "Christmas is here". It makes total sense in the main context in which it was supposed to appear (the Perl 6 Advent Calendar). I would likely rename it if I were posting here at HN. 2. The retitle includes "Perl 6.0". This has for years been the informal codename for an eventual "1.0" type release of the Perl 6 language that Larry Wall scheduled in late 2014 for delivery around now. The deliverables were/are: a version (now called v6.c) of a test suite ("roast") that corresponds to a version v6.c of the Perl 6 language; and a compiler that passes this v6.c roast and thus officially implements this first official version of the Perl 6 language. (I say "officially" to reflect what I understand to be Larry's intent for its use.) The article linked to by this HN is the first article to: * Document that the v.6c release has just happened (iiuc, around 22:00 GMT on Dec 25th); * Provide key release info such as discussion of v6.c and a link to the passing compiler that's part of v6.c. The passing compiler is the 94th monthly release, on December 25th 2015, of the Rakudo compiler, now the first official Perl 6 compiler. This compiler release clinches deliverable status for the overall v6.c (or "Perl 6.0") release. I hope this helps. And I hope you HTAAOF with the new Perl 6 and the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler. :)

sundarurfriend 11y ago

I don't know if this is what you're referring to, but found this in TLA: > To be clear on that point, this Rakudo release is not considered the primary deliverable for this Christmas; it is the language specification, known as "roast" (Repository Of All Spec Tests), that is considered the primary deliverable.

latenightcoding 11y ago

https://twitter.com/TimToady/status/680511168713064448 https://twitter.com/TimToady/status/680511168713064448

kbenson 11y ago

What? I'm fairly certain you are mistaken on quite a lot of details. Larry Wall is behind this release, and even though this is one implementation of Perl 6, that's an intentional difference between Perl 5 and Perl 6. There is no one implementation, just a set of specs and few projects aiming to implement those specs. Rakudo is at this time the most mature implementation, and the specs have been finalized so that a "1.0" version of Perl 6 can be released with an implementation that works.

eugenekolo2 11y ago
I wasn't aware that Perl 6 was going to be projects aiming to implement a spec. Nonetheless, I find the title to be misleading, it can be phrased better and more specific. As Larry Wall says in the tweets below, it'd be more exact to say "A Perl 6 Compiler and Test Suite Released".

raiph 11y ago

I can see why this stuff is confusing. Perhaps the following will help reduce some of the confusion and highlight what's important. First, about the title: 1. The article's original title was "Christmas is here". It makes total sense in the main context in which it was supposed to appear (the Perl 6 Advent Calendar). I would likely rename it if I were posting here at HN. 2. The retitle includes "Perl 6.0". This has for years been the informal codename for an eventual "1.0" type release of the Perl 6 language that Larry Wall scheduled in late 2014 for delivery around now. The deliverables were/are: a version (now called v6.c) of a test suite ("roast") that corresponds to a version v6.c of the Perl 6 language; and a compiler that passes this v6.c roast and thus officially implements this first official version of the Perl 6 language. (I say "officially" to reflect what I understand to be Larry's intent for its use.) The article linked to by this HN is the first article to: * Document that the v.6c release has just happened (iiuc, around 22:00 GMT on Dec 25th); * Provide key release info such as discussion of v6.c and a link to the passing compiler that's part of v6.c. The passing compiler is the 94th monthly release, on December 25th 2015, of the Rakudo compiler, now the first official Perl 6 compiler. This compiler release clinches deliverable status for the overall v6.c (or "Perl 6.0") release. I hope this helps. And I hope you HTAAOF with the new Perl 6 and the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler. :)