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You've got the development momentum but it's still not as good as rawtherapee for the editing bit which is the only part I'm interested in.

by Paul_S 11y ago

unicornporn 11y ago
I wish I could use Rawtherapee as it has support for DCP profiles. Rawtherapee has a big disadvantage though. AFAIK you can't affect just parts of the image, you always work with the whole image. One could argue that this is fine as you can open the image in GIMP or PS post raw conversion. However, this has more than a few cons. Example: let's say contrast is increased during raw conversion. Parts of the image will be darker then they were before the edit. If you want to lighten up the the areas around the eyes in a portrait, they now contain less information and there will be a lot more visible noise by bringing up these shadows post raw conversion.
- Paul_S 11y ago
  In this particular situation you can developed two versions - one darker, one brighter - and blend them together in gimp. I don't really do such intrusive/creative editing.
  - virtualritz 11y ago
    It is essential to have this in-app, not going to another app. Most people do not realize that even famous images that have no digital magic applied where heavily edited for exposure to support composition. See e.g. http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/ http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-icon...
    - silly1 11y ago
      Why is it essential to have this in app ? Who makes these rules ?
      - virtualritz 11y ago
        No one said this is a rule but you. Why? Because of the UX. It completely breaks the creative workflow if you have to save two [or several] versions of an image and switch to another app to compose them together to see an effect applied locally. And then go back and repeat, if the strength is not to your liking. Besides, Gimp doesn't support floating point image editing, so there is a also data loss involved if you use this app for compositing your RAW samples. Krita & Natron seem the only alternatives on Linux unless I miss something. On OSX, you could use Krita, DaVinci Resolve, Fusion, or Natron. Or pay for Photoshop. In any case, switching apps sucks. :] DT's authors understood this and added support for masks and module instancing. Plus a ton of blend modes. That's what sets DT apart from the competition when it comes to 'how' you work. As for the 'what': there is very little that the toolset of DT leaves to be desired. Even for professionals. :)

You've got the development momentum but it's still not as good as rawtherapee for the editing bit which is the only part I'm interested in.

by Paul_S 11y ago

You've got the development momentum but it's still not as good as rawtherapee for the editing bit which is the only part I'm interested in.

unicornporn 11y ago

I wish I could use Rawtherapee as it has support for DCP profiles. Rawtherapee has a big disadvantage though. AFAIK you can't affect just parts of the image, you always work with the whole image. One could argue that this is fine as you can open the image in GIMP or PS post raw conversion. However, this has more than a few cons. Example: let's say contrast is increased during raw conversion. Parts of the image will be darker then they were before the edit. If you want to lighten up the the areas around the eyes in a portrait, they now contain less information and there will be a lot more visible noise by bringing up these shadows post raw conversion.

Paul_S 11y ago
In this particular situation you can developed two versions - one darker, one brighter - and blend them together in gimp. I don't really do such intrusive/creative editing.
- virtualritz 11y ago
  It is essential to have this in-app, not going to another app. Most people do not realize that even famous images that have no digital magic applied where heavily edited for exposure to support composition. See e.g. http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/ http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-icon...
  - silly1 11y ago
    Why is it essential to have this in app ? Who makes these rules ?
    - virtualritz 11y ago
      No one said this is a rule but you. Why? Because of the UX. It completely breaks the creative workflow if you have to save two [or several] versions of an image and switch to another app to compose them together to see an effect applied locally. And then go back and repeat, if the strength is not to your liking. Besides, Gimp doesn't support floating point image editing, so there is a also data loss involved if you use this app for compositing your RAW samples. Krita & Natron seem the only alternatives on Linux unless I miss something. On OSX, you could use Krita, DaVinci Resolve, Fusion, or Natron. Or pay for Photoshop. In any case, switching apps sucks. :] DT's authors understood this and added support for masks and module instancing. Plus a ton of blend modes. That's what sets DT apart from the competition when it comes to 'how' you work. As for the 'what': there is very little that the toolset of DT leaves to be desired. Even for professionals. :)