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> To answer the GP's question: if you are in Iran, you are likely to end up in prison for any form of openly displaying an unwillingness to follow Islamic rules

> To answer the GP's question: if you are in Iran, you are likely to end up in prison for any form of openly displaying an unwillingness to follow Islamic rules. If you should find yourself in Iran, my best advice is to leave at the earliest opportunity. I don't think that's correct. Apostasy though is banned by law(not just for muslims). Also whether it's true or not that there is a strong relationship between Baha'i and Israel the world center is in Haifa. You don't need to be a genius to know that doesn't play ball with the Mullah's. Any of the downvoters care to explain their downvote? Saying 1800 doesn't properly capture that it was founded in 1844 and that by 1853 he the main guy left, because after the previous guy was executed after he declared himself the messiah and wrote a new sharia law, and in '50 his followers tried to assassinate the shah.

djKianoosh 11y ago
The reason the Baha'i world center is in Haifa Israel is because the Persian authorities in the 1800's banished its founder outside its borders to the Ottomonan Empire next door. there was no Israel at the time. The mullahs just find it convenient to use as an excuse to discriminate and treat any non muslims as 2nd class citizens.
- iofj 11y ago
  The Baha'i world center is beautiful by the way. Well worth a visit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_World_Centre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_World_Centr... Persian authorities -> let's just say muslims, and stop trying to claim that these people are treated differently in any muslim country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#/media/File:Apostasy_laws_in_2013.SVG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#/media/File:Apostasy_... (note that Indonesia is not correct, people are executed there for leaving islam all the time : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq6WMatTEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq6WMatTEQ ) If anything, Iran is very flexible in it's interpretation of islam (events like in Indonesia are pretty much unthinkable in Iran). Even in this case. You see, the prescribed punishment for what this guy did, according to islam, is not imprisonment at all. It is execution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam The constant weaseling out of stating the fact, the sort of treatment muslims give people of non-islamic faiths, and atheists (read the blog "the big pharaoh" a bit) is very a very controversial fact : just read the wikipedia article, the constant sentences about "a minority thinks different". Reality is that polls place the number of muslims that want to execute people like this physics teacher is just over 70%, and more in countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and a dozen others. You will experience the same constant weaseling out if you talk to muslims in America. When you're in an islamic ghetto, in Europe (some have quite nice food), they (in one case the same muslim) will readily point it out though. Seems to have something to do with how many muslims there are. Of course this means that the basic article of the current politically correct order, that humans just want to live together in peace, is not true for around 70% of muslims. Whether they'll take immediate action on that opinion is a different matter, true, but that obviously doesn't apply once muslims are ~60% of the local population.

djKianoosh 11y ago

The reason the Baha'i world center is in Haifa Israel is because the Persian authorities in the 1800's banished its founder outside its borders to the Ottomonan Empire next door. there was no Israel at the time. The mullahs just find it convenient to use as an excuse to discriminate and treat any non muslims as 2nd class citizens.

iofj 11y ago
The Baha'i world center is beautiful by the way. Well worth a visit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_World_Centre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_World_Centr... Persian authorities -> let's just say muslims, and stop trying to claim that these people are treated differently in any muslim country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#/media/File:Apostasy_laws_in_2013.SVG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#/media/File:Apostasy_... (note that Indonesia is not correct, people are executed there for leaving islam all the time : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq6WMatTEQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq6WMatTEQ ) If anything, Iran is very flexible in it's interpretation of islam (events like in Indonesia are pretty much unthinkable in Iran). Even in this case. You see, the prescribed punishment for what this guy did, according to islam, is not imprisonment at all. It is execution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam The constant weaseling out of stating the fact, the sort of treatment muslims give people of non-islamic faiths, and atheists (read the blog "the big pharaoh" a bit) is very a very controversial fact : just read the wikipedia article, the constant sentences about "a minority thinks different". Reality is that polls place the number of muslims that want to execute people like this physics teacher is just over 70%, and more in countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and a dozen others. You will experience the same constant weaseling out if you talk to muslims in America. When you're in an islamic ghetto, in Europe (some have quite nice food), they (in one case the same muslim) will readily point it out though. Seems to have something to do with how many muslims there are. Of course this means that the basic article of the current politically correct order, that humans just want to live together in peace, is not true for around 70% of muslims. Whether they'll take immediate action on that opinion is a different matter, true, but that obviously doesn't apply once muslims are ~60% of the local population.