3 ms·

//Edit: Welp, looking at the wrong number is going to hurt my karma a bit. Thanks for the corrections, I'll allow this slip-up to remain for posterity reasons.

by Nadya 11y ago

//Edit: Welp, looking at the wrong number is going to hurt my karma a bit. Thanks for the corrections, I'll allow this slip-up to remain for posterity reasons. One screenshot hurts their entire argument, because I cannot take the rest of what they say at face value. Notice that the $18.49 package gives five razors while the $14.99 package gives four razors. The $3.50~ markup is due to an additional razor being provided. The package is misleading because it is called "Hydro 5" but provides 4 razors as indicated in the bottom right corner of the packaging. http://i.imgur.com/p3Z2lnJ.png http://i.imgur.com/p3Z2lnJ.png //End Edit - The above was my mistake of looking at the wrong number on the women's packaging as explained by the replies to this comment. Tacking on a reasonable counter-argument to the tail end of the article hoping people will miss it is also an annoyingly common practice I see these sorts of hatemongering articles. And you know what? They probably have a valid point. But they couldn't take the time to carefully make their comparisons, clean the data of any faulty issues (like the razors), and give any counterpoints some proper space. So I'll dismiss it like I would any other topic that tried to do this. >Ravi Dhar, director of the Center for Customer Insights at the Yale School of Management, said how we perceive “women’s” products could help explain why gender markups persist in the marketplace. >“Many men's products are not seen as men's products,” he said. “They might just be seen as products in the category.” >Which makes the “pink” version a specialty product, he said.

danhak 11y ago
> One screenshot hurts their entire argument, because I cannot take the rest of what they say at face value. Notice that the $18.49 package gives five razors while the $14.99 package gives four razors. The $3.50~ markup is due to an additional razor being provided. No, you've misread the packaging. Both packages contain 4 razor cartridges. The number 5 you highlighted on the women's product advertises 5 blades per cartridge (same as the men's product) but the package contains only 4 cartridges as you'll see if you look a little further to the right. You can see a higher resolution photo of the product and some more details here: https://shop.riteaid.com/schick-hydro-silk-razor-cartridges-4-cartridges-0368651 https://shop.riteaid.com/schick-hydro-silk-razor-cartridges-...
- Nadya 11y ago
  >No, you've misread the packaging. It appears I have actually. Thanks for pointing this out! That removes a lot of my issue with the article with that issue, because it didn't exist to begin with. Just my own misreading. :) If I'm allowed to excuse why I overlooked that 4 - I'd blame my familiarity with the male packaging. I didn't even notice the 4 when looking for numbers because it didn't have words next to it! At this point I'd be more offended that they think the word "cartridge" is too difficult for women and use a picture of the blade instead, as if they're children.
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]
yellowbkpk 11y ago
The parts of the image you're highlighting are incorrect. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006DR2BQU http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006DR2BQU Schick Hydro Silk for Women Refill Blades, 4 Count $13.39 or $3.35 each http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GR0EFRG http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GR0EFRG Schick Hydro 5 Sensitive Refill Razor Blade, 4 Count $11.19 or $2.80 each
- luso_brazilian 11y ago
  While I do not doubt price discrimination targeted to women exist (and this study seems to highlight it), in this particular market (razors) they misrepresent the value of their products across the board. For instance, read this amusing anedocte [1] about the difference between the Gillette Fusion and Fusion Power lines. It is from 2007 but I believe it lasts to this day: Second, I decided to try them for myself... I've been using the Fusion Power razor with Fusion Power blades since they came out (only on the face though). I always notice the price of the Fusion blades is typically $1 - $2 cheaper per 4 pack than the Fusion Power blades. I grabbed a 4 pack of the regular Fusion blades at Wal-Mart for about $12.36 (versus $13.74) and took them home to see if Gillette is telling the truth or if they are pulling our legs and profiting from a clever marketing ploy... ??? The Test and Results... The first thing I noticed was the regular Fusion blade was blue rather than orange... could that be the "specific design" mumbo jumbo that they were talking about? ??? I like orange, but not for an average upcharge of $1.50 per four pack... (...) My take on Gillette Fusion Power blades is that the blades are the same as the, dare I say, ordinary Fusion blades and they market them at a higher price to deceive men that they will get a better shave using the Power blades because they are designed differently. (...) He then wrote a letter to Gillette: All that being said, what gives Gillette?? Why do Fusion Power cartridges cost, on average, $1.50 more per four pack when, in my opinion, they give the exact same shave as a regular Fusion cartridge? What exactly is the difference that makes the Fusion Power cartridges superior to the regular Fusion cartridges? And received an answer from P&G: Dear Rob- The differences between the Power and Manual Fusion Cartridges are subtle but there are differences. The Power Fusion Cartridges have aloe, vitamin E and natural oils in the lubrastrip while the Manual Cartridges have just aloe and vitamin E. There is also a slightly different coating on the blade of the Power Cartridges. That coating was designed to work with the vibration of the razor. I hope this answers your questions. Thanks again for writing. Kelly H Fusion Team tl;dr: no difference between the Fusion and Fusion Power lines of Gillette except for the 1.50 increase in price and "natural oils". [1] http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=1871.0 http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=1871.0
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]

by Nadya 11y ago

danhak 11y ago

> One screenshot hurts their entire argument, because I cannot take the rest of what they say at face value. Notice that the $18.49 package gives five razors while the $14.99 package gives four razors. The $3.50~ markup is due to an additional razor being provided. No, you've misread the packaging. Both packages contain 4 razor cartridges. The number 5 you highlighted on the women's product advertises 5 blades per cartridge (same as the men's product) but the package contains only 4 cartridges as you'll see if you look a little further to the right. You can see a higher resolution photo of the product and some more details here: https://shop.riteaid.com/schick-hydro-silk-razor-cartridges-4-cartridges-0368651 https://shop.riteaid.com/schick-hydro-silk-razor-cartridges-...

Nadya 11y ago
>No, you've misread the packaging. It appears I have actually. Thanks for pointing this out! That removes a lot of my issue with the article with that issue, because it didn't exist to begin with. Just my own misreading. :) If I'm allowed to excuse why I overlooked that 4 - I'd blame my familiarity with the male packaging. I didn't even notice the 4 when looking for numbers because it didn't have words next to it! At this point I'd be more offended that they think the word "cartridge" is too difficult for women and use a picture of the blade instead, as if they're children.

deleted 11y ago

[deleted]

yellowbkpk 11y ago

The parts of the image you're highlighting are incorrect. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006DR2BQU http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006DR2BQU Schick Hydro Silk for Women Refill Blades, 4 Count $13.39 or $3.35 each http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GR0EFRG http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GR0EFRG Schick Hydro 5 Sensitive Refill Razor Blade, 4 Count $11.19 or $2.80 each

luso_brazilian 11y ago
While I do not doubt price discrimination targeted to women exist (and this study seems to highlight it), in this particular market (razors) they misrepresent the value of their products across the board. For instance, read this amusing anedocte [1] about the difference between the Gillette Fusion and Fusion Power lines. It is from 2007 but I believe it lasts to this day: Second, I decided to try them for myself... I've been using the Fusion Power razor with Fusion Power blades since they came out (only on the face though). I always notice the price of the Fusion blades is typically $1 - $2 cheaper per 4 pack than the Fusion Power blades. I grabbed a 4 pack of the regular Fusion blades at Wal-Mart for about $12.36 (versus $13.74) and took them home to see if Gillette is telling the truth or if they are pulling our legs and profiting from a clever marketing ploy... ??? The Test and Results... The first thing I noticed was the regular Fusion blade was blue rather than orange... could that be the "specific design" mumbo jumbo that they were talking about? ??? I like orange, but not for an average upcharge of $1.50 per four pack... (...) My take on Gillette Fusion Power blades is that the blades are the same as the, dare I say, ordinary Fusion blades and they market them at a higher price to deceive men that they will get a better shave using the Power blades because they are designed differently. (...) He then wrote a letter to Gillette: All that being said, what gives Gillette?? Why do Fusion Power cartridges cost, on average, $1.50 more per four pack when, in my opinion, they give the exact same shave as a regular Fusion cartridge? What exactly is the difference that makes the Fusion Power cartridges superior to the regular Fusion cartridges? And received an answer from P&G: Dear Rob- The differences between the Power and Manual Fusion Cartridges are subtle but there are differences. The Power Fusion Cartridges have aloe, vitamin E and natural oils in the lubrastrip while the Manual Cartridges have just aloe and vitamin E. There is also a slightly different coating on the blade of the Power Cartridges. That coating was designed to work with the vibration of the razor. I hope this answers your questions. Thanks again for writing. Kelly H Fusion Team tl;dr: no difference between the Fusion and Fusion Power lines of Gillette except for the 1.50 increase in price and "natural oils". [1] http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=1871.0 http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=1871.0

deleted 11y ago

[deleted]