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Major question about this comment. > They all have the same server farms. Owned by Amazon, no doubt. And there aren’t any technical hurdles. It’s just more com

Major question about this comment. > They all have the same server farms. Owned by Amazon, no doubt. And there aren’t any technical hurdles. It’s just more computation. Does Apple use Amazon's servers? I thought Apple ran its own hardware/data centers. I've definitely heard war stories of Apple towing trucks full of racks into the desert so they could bump their capacity for cheap.

olau 11y ago
Apple's contemplating building a server farm not terribly far from where I live, so no, I don't think they're using Amazon. I think that comment is supposed to mean that they all have access to big clusters, not that it's the same clusters.
- JustSomeNobody 11y ago
  All they need is a half dozen powermac supercomputers. But seriously, could they not be using Amazon until they finish building out their own farm?
pngat2x 11y ago
http://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf http://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf Page 41, Second paragraph: "The keys, and the file’s metadata, are stored by Apple in the user’s iCloud account. The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure."
Someone 11y ago
They did about two years ago. http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security_Feb14.pdf http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security_Fe... (emphasis added): "Each file is broken into chunks and encrypted by iCloud using AES-128 and a key derived from each chunk’s contents that utilizes SHA-256. The keys, and the file’s metadata, are stored by Apple in the user’s iCloud account. The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure."
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
Apple have some of their own data centres, and they also use lots of other people's. They're rather diversified.

olau 11y ago

Apple's contemplating building a server farm not terribly far from where I live, so no, I don't think they're using Amazon. I think that comment is supposed to mean that they all have access to big clusters, not that it's the same clusters.

JustSomeNobody 11y ago
All they need is a half dozen powermac supercomputers. But seriously, could they not be using Amazon until they finish building out their own farm?

pngat2x 11y ago

http://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf http://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf Page 41, Second paragraph: "The keys, and the file’s metadata, are stored by Apple in the user’s iCloud account. The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure."

Someone 11y ago

They did about two years ago. http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security_Feb14.pdf http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security_Fe... (emphasis added): "Each file is broken into chunks and encrypted by iCloud using AES-128 and a key derived from each chunk’s contents that utilizes SHA-256. The keys, and the file’s metadata, are stored by Apple in the user’s iCloud account. The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure."

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

Apple have some of their own data centres, and they also use lots of other people's. They're rather diversified.