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I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. I agree that she doesn't understand the tech and that specific statement could very easily be taken as

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. I agree that she doesn't understand the tech and that specific statement could very easily be taken as just another example of ignorant politician double-speak. > You’re going to hear all of the usual complaints, you know, freedom of speech, et cetera. But if we truly are in a war against terrorism and we are truly looking for ways to shut off their funding, shut off the flow of foreign fighters, then we’ve got to shut off their means of communicating. It’s more complicated with some of what they do on encrypted apps, and I’m well aware of that, and that requires even more thinking about how to do it. This quote (video: https://vimeo.com/148092658 https://vimeo.com/148092658), shows a more perturbing side of the issue that goes beyond simply not understanding encryption. She might not understand the technology, but she does understand that freedom of speech and, arguably, one of the other bits of "et cetera" she's referring to would be privacy, shouldn't get in the way of "fighting terrorism". Not to turn this into a purely political argument, since this is a problem on both sides of the ticket. (Trump has said equally egregious things, but I'm still hopeful that he won't sniff the White House). Just saying, _please_ don't be so naive as to dismiss the political rhetoric as simply technological ignorance.

dragontamer 11y ago
> understand that freedom of speech We don't give freedom of life to foreign fighters (ie: we blow them up and kill them), why should we give them freedom of speech? Enemies are enemies. And people need to realize what "war" really means. Its not nice, and its messy. We will trample on the rights we hold dear against our enemies. Guantanamo Bay remains open: a location where we secretly take prisoners of war, without a trial, without representation, and detain them for decades. And its best for us to be informed of war so that we know not to do it unless necessary. But in any case, we remain at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, despite Obama's attempts to get us out of the region. The France Paris attacks are proof of that. They are our enemy. They want to kill us as much as we want to kill them, and neither we (nor them) seem interested in brokering peace. Until we can enter serious peace talks with the Taliban (in Afghanistan), and with ISIS (in Iraq / Syria), this war will continue. But such talk is heresy in all aspects of politics. In any case, giving freedom of speech and freedom of expression to ISIS fighters while we shoot missiles at them with remote controlled aircraft, and send special forces units to kill them in their sleep is ignorant bliss. There's a war to fight, and our fighters need every advantage they can get.

dragontamer 11y ago

> understand that freedom of speech We don't give freedom of life to foreign fighters (ie: we blow them up and kill them), why should we give them freedom of speech? Enemies are enemies. And people need to realize what "war" really means. Its not nice, and its messy. We will trample on the rights we hold dear against our enemies. Guantanamo Bay remains open: a location where we secretly take prisoners of war, without a trial, without representation, and detain them for decades. And its best for us to be informed of war so that we know not to do it unless necessary. But in any case, we remain at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, despite Obama's attempts to get us out of the region. The France Paris attacks are proof of that. They are our enemy. They want to kill us as much as we want to kill them, and neither we (nor them) seem interested in brokering peace. Until we can enter serious peace talks with the Taliban (in Afghanistan), and with ISIS (in Iraq / Syria), this war will continue. But such talk is heresy in all aspects of politics. In any case, giving freedom of speech and freedom of expression to ISIS fighters while we shoot missiles at them with remote controlled aircraft, and send special forces units to kill them in their sleep is ignorant bliss. There's a war to fight, and our fighters need every advantage they can get.