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I don't see why they just cant keep subverting encryption through all the usual suspects (vulns, social engineering, etc…). The whole encryption debate just see

I don't see why they just cant keep subverting encryption through all the usual suspects (vulns, social engineering, etc…). The whole encryption debate just seems like silly posturing on the part of company/ngo's officials and governments… especially since all of the aforementioned still want to use their shiny new tech products.

pdkl95 11y ago
Why? Because this isn't just about encryption! Crypto is just the current attack strategy. Technology in general has moved a lot of power away from government to the big players in the tech industry. An easy example is the somewhat-recent articles[1] about the political power that Facebook has with their ability to influence people... and influence elections. Obviously, Google could do the same. This shift in power is what scares people who's only goal is to be re-elected. Therefor, they see internet corporations like Facebook and Google - and by extension most of the tech industry to varying degrees - as the enemy. [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-04/how-facebook-hopes-to-influence-the-election http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-04/how-fa...
- cinquemb 11y ago
  >Technology in general has moved a lot of power away from government to the big players in the tech industry. Really? I think companies and governments seem to work together pretty well just looking at all of legislation that has passed recently and all the secret agreements made in secret courts in order to have access to data from companies like Facebook and Google, that the public has been made aware of that happen. >This shift in power is what scares people who's only goal is to be re-elected. Or people are trying to muster of some sense of fear in people order to gain support, they themselves aren't scared because as you say they are using it as a political tool to get elected…

pdkl95 11y ago

Why? Because this isn't just about encryption! Crypto is just the current attack strategy. Technology in general has moved a lot of power away from government to the big players in the tech industry. An easy example is the somewhat-recent articles[1] about the political power that Facebook has with their ability to influence people... and influence elections. Obviously, Google could do the same. This shift in power is what scares people who's only goal is to be re-elected. Therefor, they see internet corporations like Facebook and Google - and by extension most of the tech industry to varying degrees - as the enemy. [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-04/how-facebook-hopes-to-influence-the-election http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-04/how-fa...

cinquemb 11y ago
>Technology in general has moved a lot of power away from government to the big players in the tech industry. Really? I think companies and governments seem to work together pretty well just looking at all of legislation that has passed recently and all the secret agreements made in secret courts in order to have access to data from companies like Facebook and Google, that the public has been made aware of that happen. >This shift in power is what scares people who's only goal is to be re-elected. Or people are trying to muster of some sense of fear in people order to gain support, they themselves aren't scared because as you say they are using it as a political tool to get elected…