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Would you care to point out some US companies that have hosted servers and hired employees in Saudi Arabia where those servers and employees were flaunting Saud

Would you care to point out some US companies that have hosted servers and hired employees in Saudi Arabia where those servers and employees were flaunting Saudi law? Further, New Zealand made their own choice to extradite him. They could have refused, they instead chose to. The alternative might have been an international incident, but they decided to aid the US and turn him over. The US is not so all-powerful that it can compel governments to act against their own best interest, only powerful enough to align interests, by hook or crook.

djsumdog 11y ago
> The US is not so all-powerful that it can compel governments to act against their own best interest, only powerful enough to align interests, by hook or crook. What world do you live in? The United States often compels governments to act against their own interests. The 1973 US backed coup leading to the death of 11,000 civilians. The Iranian-Contras. The School of the Americas, which literally trained terrorists in South America, Iraq! Thirty years from now, declassified information will show the US caused the rebellion in Libya and that the US directly funded ISIS. Granted New Zealand is a Commonwealth State and it'd be much more difficult to go to war with a developed English speaking nation, but they are still under the thumb of the US/UK empire. They ruled the spying on Kim Dotcom was illegal, then changed the laws to make it retroactively legal...and also allow the GCHB to spy on anyone they want.
- flyryan 11y ago
  I wish I could base my arguments on things that are going to happen 30 years from now.
- gcb0 11y ago
  for NZ, the USA based companies signed a deal to film several multi million dollars movies there on the same week the NZ feds agreed to press charges and arrest Kim Dotcom. including the hobbit, which also donated a renovated international airport to the country (hobbit themed no less) if you want to think the US industry most interested in the copyright law there moving all that money at the right time is just a coincidence, suit yourself.
  - zaphar 11y ago
    To be fair the landscape of NZ was highly suitable to the filming of a Movie like the Hobbit. There were far better reasons for them to be filming there than the Dotcom case. Enough better reasons that it's reasonable to conclude the timing in the case was coincidental. I suspect that it's also not unusual for Hollywood to sweeten the pot when they want to film somewhere with donations of various types. The connection between the case and those films is extremely tenuous.
    - snori74 11y ago
      It is a bit unusual for Hollywood to get laws passed in their favour in foreign countries - http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/31/warner-bros-new-zealand-hobbit-film http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/31/warner-bros-...
gcb0 11y ago
my employer has a data center there and neighboring countries, and i can guess we don't pay much attention if out edge servers are hosting any entertainment news pictures that are death offenses there. same with China. i bet right now our edge servers are pumping out lots of state censored topics that are also possible treason death sentences.

djsumdog 11y ago

> The US is not so all-powerful that it can compel governments to act against their own best interest, only powerful enough to align interests, by hook or crook. What world do you live in? The United States often compels governments to act against their own interests. The 1973 US backed coup leading to the death of 11,000 civilians. The Iranian-Contras. The School of the Americas, which literally trained terrorists in South America, Iraq! Thirty years from now, declassified information will show the US caused the rebellion in Libya and that the US directly funded ISIS. Granted New Zealand is a Commonwealth State and it'd be much more difficult to go to war with a developed English speaking nation, but they are still under the thumb of the US/UK empire. They ruled the spying on Kim Dotcom was illegal, then changed the laws to make it retroactively legal...and also allow the GCHB to spy on anyone they want.

flyryan 11y ago
I wish I could base my arguments on things that are going to happen 30 years from now.
gcb0 11y ago
for NZ, the USA based companies signed a deal to film several multi million dollars movies there on the same week the NZ feds agreed to press charges and arrest Kim Dotcom. including the hobbit, which also donated a renovated international airport to the country (hobbit themed no less) if you want to think the US industry most interested in the copyright law there moving all that money at the right time is just a coincidence, suit yourself.
- zaphar 11y ago
  To be fair the landscape of NZ was highly suitable to the filming of a Movie like the Hobbit. There were far better reasons for them to be filming there than the Dotcom case. Enough better reasons that it's reasonable to conclude the timing in the case was coincidental. I suspect that it's also not unusual for Hollywood to sweeten the pot when they want to film somewhere with donations of various types. The connection between the case and those films is extremely tenuous.
  - snori74 11y ago
    It is a bit unusual for Hollywood to get laws passed in their favour in foreign countries - http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/31/warner-bros-new-zealand-hobbit-film http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/31/warner-bros-...

gcb0 11y ago

my employer has a data center there and neighboring countries, and i can guess we don't pay much attention if out edge servers are hosting any entertainment news pictures that are death offenses there. same with China. i bet right now our edge servers are pumping out lots of state censored topics that are also possible treason death sentences.