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Another possible explanation is: He is really not very good at measuring energy input and heat output. He built something and confused himself into thinking it
by marshray 11y ago
Another possible explanation is:
He is really not very good at measuring energy input and heat output. He built something and confused himself into thinking it was producing more energy than it consumes. He took some money from investors to develop the technology. He spent much of the research money, eventually to realize that his device does not, in fact, produce energy. His investors now want their money back and he is concerned they are going to break his legs.
So at this point he has no choice but to maintain his original claims for as long as possible. Appearing now to be bumbling and incompetent may be preferable to appearing accurate and precise with measurements.
- ChuckMcM 11y agoA reasonable guess, the only counter factual is that a number of people who are not fools seem to have convinced themselves that there is something there but they don't know what. And as the article points out there are a number of labs around the world that have independently seen results that were anomalous with respect to the current understanding of how things should work chemically. So if nothing else there is a really good parlor trick in there somewhere, but even tricks need an explanation.
- marshray 11y agoIt's very common for people who are totally not fools to get sucked into free energy scams. This is one of the better ones being demonstrated at the technical univeristy of Delft I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHW6b1aFPfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKCEceWs-Gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKCEceWs-Gc
- skrebbel 11y agonice. how did it play out? has it been debunked?
- marshray 11y agoThis site has a lot of information http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Muammer_Yildiz_Magnet_Motor http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Muammer_Yildiz_Magnet... There was some sort of plan in the works to have a model undergo a 30 day examination at a major European university. But (surprise surprise) there's no information to suggest that ever happened. Another experimenter tried to replicate the device from the patent without success. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Muammer_Yildiz_Magnet_Motor#Replication_Attempts http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Muammer_Yildiz_Magnet... Yildiz got involved in some sort of legal dust-up in Germany: http://pesn.com/2013/01/09/9602262_Yildiz_Tells_the_Story_About_His_Magnet_Motor/ http://pesn.com/2013/01/09/9602262_Yildiz_Tells_the_Story_Ab... As of May 2015 they were said to be preparing a "sales launch" and licensing distributors: http://pesn.com//2015/05/05/9602616_Yildiz-preparing-for-sales-launch/ http://pesn.com//2015/05/05/9602616_Yildiz-preparing-for-sal...
- zensavona 11y agoThat's amazing. He comes across like such a "magician". An illusionist like "yes, take a look inside the machine!"
- disbelief 11y agoThe article mentions two independent groups of physicists who both had access to his device and both reported the same results. That would mean that both groups were in on it, or he's become so good at faking his results that they withstand a month of scrutiny.
- mcguire 11y agoOr that they have screwed up themselves somehow. In '89, there were several labs which claimed to replicate P&F's results, too. They were eventually found to have calorimetric or similar problems.
- ars 11y ago> He is really not very good at measuring energy input and heat output. Calorimetry is actually extremely hard to do right. VERY hard. I stopped following this field a few years ago, but back then EVERY single positive result was due to faulty calorimetry.
- Gibbon1 11y agoJust temperature measurement is hard once you start talking accuracy better than a few tenths of a degree C. Add in heat flow, yeah whatever.
- htns 11y agoLubos Motl called out the specifics of the Energy Catalyzer hoax some years ago. I think it had to do with neglecting hydrostatic pressure within the water pipes, which allowed steam to get in.