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Apple is first to a bunch of things: Apple Pay, Force Touch, Touch ID etc. They're also so much further ahead on dimensions like performance, battery life, bui

Apple is first to a bunch of things: Apple Pay, Force Touch, Touch ID etc. They're also so much further ahead on dimensions like performance, battery life, build quality, camera, apps, etc. Those things are so important, I think they're similar to "being first"

Oletros 11y ago
> Apple Pay, Force Touch, Touch ID etc. Yes, those Apple things were first shown on an iPhone. It doesn't means that those technologies were first shown on the iPhone
ytjohn 11y ago
I've been using Google Wallet for a long time. When Apple Pay came out, more places started providing nfc readers, which made my Google Wallet (not called Android Pay) work in more places.
mkane848 11y ago
Apple Pay and TouchID? Come on now, at least retina displays and Force Touch are good examples, but Apple certainly wasn't the first to implement eWallets or fingerprints linked to your ID. And while I'll concede that things like their cameras are great, the only reason certain things like performance and battery life are what they are is because they control iOS AND all of the hardware running it. And app development on iOS has just as many pros and cons as developing for Android, I don't think it fair to label one as better in that regard.
- pravka 11y ago
  Not even Force Touch is a good example; Android has had getPressure() API since v1.
  - mkane848 11y ago
    Huh, TIL. Thanks!
WrkInProgress 11y ago
I'd argue that they aren't "so much further" ahead of almost everyone of the dimensions you listed with the exception of: 1.) potentially performance (as I'm not familiar with the true technical benchmarks of something like the A9 chip vs the latst Snapdragon, Exynos, etc) 2.) Apps - only if you include true "tablet" apps as well, as Android has done a terrible job with their tablet apps (basically glorified phone apps for the most part).
at-fates-hands 11y ago
They also blatantly rip Microsoft off in a number of things - clearly showing they are lagging behind in the design area. Examples: - Split view and side view on the ipad - Siri enhancements that copied Cortana functionality - Detachable keyboard for the ipad - Pen for the ipad And those are just the ones of the top of my head, I'm sure there are others. Where they used to be first to market with their stuff, they're now waiting and copying competitors instead and its getting really obvious.

Oletros 11y ago

> Apple Pay, Force Touch, Touch ID etc. Yes, those Apple things were first shown on an iPhone. It doesn't means that those technologies were first shown on the iPhone

ytjohn 11y ago

I've been using Google Wallet for a long time. When Apple Pay came out, more places started providing nfc readers, which made my Google Wallet (not called Android Pay) work in more places.

mkane848 11y ago

Apple Pay and TouchID? Come on now, at least retina displays and Force Touch are good examples, but Apple certainly wasn't the first to implement eWallets or fingerprints linked to your ID. And while I'll concede that things like their cameras are great, the only reason certain things like performance and battery life are what they are is because they control iOS AND all of the hardware running it. And app development on iOS has just as many pros and cons as developing for Android, I don't think it fair to label one as better in that regard.

pravka 11y ago
Not even Force Touch is a good example; Android has had getPressure() API since v1.
- mkane848 11y ago
  Huh, TIL. Thanks!

WrkInProgress 11y ago

I'd argue that they aren't "so much further" ahead of almost everyone of the dimensions you listed with the exception of: 1.) potentially performance (as I'm not familiar with the true technical benchmarks of something like the A9 chip vs the latst Snapdragon, Exynos, etc) 2.) Apps - only if you include true "tablet" apps as well, as Android has done a terrible job with their tablet apps (basically glorified phone apps for the most part).

at-fates-hands 11y ago

They also blatantly rip Microsoft off in a number of things - clearly showing they are lagging behind in the design area. Examples: - Split view and side view on the ipad - Siri enhancements that copied Cortana functionality - Detachable keyboard for the ipad - Pen for the ipad And those are just the ones of the top of my head, I'm sure there are others. Where they used to be first to market with their stuff, they're now waiting and copying competitors instead and its getting really obvious.