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> "I mean, you can take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in a room that we’re currently sitting in." Don't know how big that

by venning 11y ago

> "I mean, you can take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in a room that we’re currently sitting in." Don't know how big that room is, but you could probably fill it with the toll and die makers in my extended family and their coworkers. I get his argument, even if I don't buy it, but that's just an insulting remark.

steve19 11y ago
It's a ridiculous soundbite which I am sure was devised by a PR hack. There are probably enough US tool makers with YouTube channels to fill a room! (I subscribe to many of them) If he were honest it's probably because China is cheaper but also because it's much easier. They can order a product, at crazy high volumes, and let the Chinese figure out how to scale. And afterwards there is no bad press when workers are fired.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  NL is a lot smaller than the US (17 M vs 300+M inhabitants). We have 100's of tool-and-diemakers here, I think Cook will need a slightly larger room for the US ones. But I can see why he doesn't actually know about this, tool-and-die makers are not exactly hobnobbing with the jet-set. And don't forget that tool-and-diemaking is a specialization from being a machinist and you could probably find quite a few of those and train them to become tool-and-diemakers. The (much harder) sub-discipline is the one of moldmaker, and of those too there are (still) quite a few.
  - rimantas 11y ago
    Cook being the one who fine-tuned Apple's operations to perfection I think he knows a lot about the things he talks about.
    - forgottenpass 11y ago
      Cook being a public face of Apple, I think he makes deceptive public statements to protect Apple, regardless of what he knows.
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      > Cook being the one who fine-tuned Apple's operations to perfection I think he knows a lot about the things he talks about. I'm sure he does, which makes it sadder.
- jevgeni 11y ago
  It's a misdirection from Apple. If the number of tool and die makers in China is way bigger than in the US, that means that the market in China is way more competitive and Apple can get a better price.

by venning 11y ago

steve19 11y ago

It's a ridiculous soundbite which I am sure was devised by a PR hack. There are probably enough US tool makers with YouTube channels to fill a room! (I subscribe to many of them) If he were honest it's probably because China is cheaper but also because it's much easier. They can order a product, at crazy high volumes, and let the Chinese figure out how to scale. And afterwards there is no bad press when workers are fired.

jacquesm 11y ago
NL is a lot smaller than the US (17 M vs 300+M inhabitants). We have 100's of tool-and-diemakers here, I think Cook will need a slightly larger room for the US ones. But I can see why he doesn't actually know about this, tool-and-die makers are not exactly hobnobbing with the jet-set. And don't forget that tool-and-diemaking is a specialization from being a machinist and you could probably find quite a few of those and train them to become tool-and-diemakers. The (much harder) sub-discipline is the one of moldmaker, and of those too there are (still) quite a few.
- rimantas 11y ago
  Cook being the one who fine-tuned Apple's operations to perfection I think he knows a lot about the things he talks about.
  - forgottenpass 11y ago
    Cook being a public face of Apple, I think he makes deceptive public statements to protect Apple, regardless of what he knows.
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    > Cook being the one who fine-tuned Apple's operations to perfection I think he knows a lot about the things he talks about. I'm sure he does, which makes it sadder.
jevgeni 11y ago
It's a misdirection from Apple. If the number of tool and die makers in China is way bigger than in the US, that means that the market in China is way more competitive and Apple can get a better price.