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Culture and economics are strange. Is hazing the result of demanding discipline for high quality popular products? Or do popular products result in hazing since

by s986s 11y ago

Culture and economics are strange. Is hazing the result of demanding discipline for high quality popular products? Or do popular products result in hazing since supply is bigger than demand? What we can definitely say is sushi has become american standard and that without Japanese chefs, quality sushi would not always be available. Something I think about is sports. Winning doesnt always involve fun, sometimes its discipline, practicing endlessly and ensuring each member plays their part properly instead of give excuses and act solo. Is hazing the problem? Or is not seeing hazings place in the world? Do we hate discipline ir just discipline at extremes? Why do we hit dogs to stop them from pooping inside and give them treets for listening to a name? I think there is grey area

kiiski 11y ago
You hit dogs to stop them pooping inside? I don't think there's anything grey about that...
- s986s 11y ago
  How do you train dogs? How doglike are humans? At what point is explaination not enough to discipline a person? Repetition becomes ignored? The appearence of weakness gives room for rebellion? You speak from a moral high ground but i really think these questions are worth exploring
  - kiiski 11y ago
    > How do you train dogs? By rewarding correct behaviour. Those questions have already been explored, and contemporary experts pretty much agree that punishing, especially physically beating, is counterproductive. Both for dogs and humans.
    - s986s 11y ago
      Well who am i to doubt? I have never attempted contemporary tactics nor seen them in action. What i have seen is what has worked in the past because we are still animals (including myself) despite all the incredible tools and knowledge we have. Do you have use cases? I think this an incredible thing to explore. I can tell you think im insensitive. I appreciate you punishing my behaviour with stern talking. Clearly even you see the benefit

by s986s 11y ago

kiiski 11y ago

You hit dogs to stop them pooping inside? I don't think there's anything grey about that...

s986s 11y ago
How do you train dogs? How doglike are humans? At what point is explaination not enough to discipline a person? Repetition becomes ignored? The appearence of weakness gives room for rebellion? You speak from a moral high ground but i really think these questions are worth exploring
- kiiski 11y ago
  > How do you train dogs? By rewarding correct behaviour. Those questions have already been explored, and contemporary experts pretty much agree that punishing, especially physically beating, is counterproductive. Both for dogs and humans.
  - s986s 11y ago
    Well who am i to doubt? I have never attempted contemporary tactics nor seen them in action. What i have seen is what has worked in the past because we are still animals (including myself) despite all the incredible tools and knowledge we have. Do you have use cases? I think this an incredible thing to explore. I can tell you think im insensitive. I appreciate you punishing my behaviour with stern talking. Clearly even you see the benefit