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Conspiracy implies secrecy, but leftists have been anything but secret on their designs to establish permanent majorities for themselves through immigration. Th

Conspiracy implies secrecy, but leftists have been anything but secret on their designs to establish permanent majorities for themselves through immigration. They even write boastful articles like the ones below celebrating the impeding unelectability of Republicans due to demographic changes brought about by left-wing policies, policies which of course no one can question without being ostracized as a "racist": https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/05/26/the-hard-demographic-truth-facing-republicans-in-2016-in-2-charts/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/05/26/th... http://www.salon.com/2015/10/30/gop_death_spiral_shocker_weve_gone_beyond_the_tipping_point_on_the_demographic_changes/ http://www.salon.com/2015/10/30/gop_death_spiral_shocker_wev...

BookmarkSaver 11y ago
What is even being argued here? First, about those articles, what "they" are you implying wrote them? And they don't seem "boastful" as much as descriptive. And even if they are liberals boasting about it, how does that make it a "scheme" so much as simply pointing out their successes and advantages? Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?
- anon79b8ad22b 11y ago
  I suppose these don't sound boastful to you either: http://www.salon.com/2014/11/05/enjoy_it_while_it_lasts_gop_base_is_still_white_and_aging/ http://www.salon.com/2014/11/05/enjoy_it_while_it_lasts_gop_... http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/whites_only_gop_meets_its_demographic_destiny/ http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/whites_only_gop_meets_its_de...
  - BookmarkSaver 11y ago
    I'll just quote myself, because you seem to have ignored the rest of what I've said in favor of mindlessly repeating yourself: "And even if they are liberals boasting about it, how does that make it a "scheme" so much as simply pointing out their successes and advantages? Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?"
    - anon79b8ad22b 11y ago
      >Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?" Quoting myself from another post: > What other reason could there be for self-described progressives to support the mass importation of homophobic, misogynist, and devoutly religious Muslims, other than their unwavering support for left-wing parties The left enacts policies to alter the demographics of a nation in ways that will virtually guarantee them electoral success, and then they loudly decry anyone who criticizes these policies as a "racist," "xenophobe," or something similar, and then they even have the nerve to write boastful articles like the ones I linked to above; it's too obvious to ignore at this point, and the rise of Trump and other immigration restrictionist candidates is an understandable and overdue response.
      - BookmarkSaver 11y ago
        >The left enacts policies to alter the demographics of a nation in ways that will virtually guarantee them electoral success, and then they loudly decry anyone who criticizes these policies as a "racist," "xenophobe," or something similar Yes... because they are. Because most liberals believe that everyone, regardless of nationality, ethnicity, or creed, deserves equal opportunity. And because they believe in diversity, and compassion, and discriminating or restricting immigration flies in the face of these principles. >and then they even have the nerve to write boastful articles like the ones I linked to above Yes, how dare they celebrate their successes and growing support. What monsters... You act like this is some sort of "gotcha" paradox. It's not. It's perfectly consistent. >to support the mass importation of homophobic, misogynist, and devoutly religious Muslims, First, you are being racist and xenophobic here. You are stereotyping immigrants and you are supporting discrimination against them based on this. Second, you are assuming that everyone shares your racist and xenophobic prejudices. Being against gay marriage, or being a devout Muslim are not reasons in my mind to restrict immigration, even though I think opposing gay marriage is discriminatory and that Islam is a dumb religion. Because I know that this country (USA) has opportunities for a better life than most of the world, and we should grant those opportunities to as many people as is sustainable, something which we aren't even close to achieving. It is called compassion. And defending liberty. It is the foundation of the country, to accept the downtrodden from all over the world. It is the reason that the vast majority of the population is even on this continent in the first place. You sound exactly like a 50's racist ranting about how segregation is ending solely because of a political plot to gain black votes, or someone from even earlier ranting about "those damn Papist Irish" taking over in a conspiracy for the Pope to rule the US. Grow up, sometimes the world isn't as disgustingly cynical as you'd like to believe.

BookmarkSaver 11y ago

What is even being argued here? First, about those articles, what "they" are you implying wrote them? And they don't seem "boastful" as much as descriptive. And even if they are liberals boasting about it, how does that make it a "scheme" so much as simply pointing out their successes and advantages? Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?

anon79b8ad22b 11y ago
I suppose these don't sound boastful to you either: http://www.salon.com/2014/11/05/enjoy_it_while_it_lasts_gop_base_is_still_white_and_aging/ http://www.salon.com/2014/11/05/enjoy_it_while_it_lasts_gop_... http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/whites_only_gop_meets_its_demographic_destiny/ http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/whites_only_gop_meets_its_de...
- BookmarkSaver 11y ago
  I'll just quote myself, because you seem to have ignored the rest of what I've said in favor of mindlessly repeating yourself: "And even if they are liberals boasting about it, how does that make it a "scheme" so much as simply pointing out their successes and advantages? Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?"
  - anon79b8ad22b 11y ago
    >Basically where is there any shred of evidence that the prevailing reason for supporting immigration is to generate a majority, rather than simply thinking it is the right or best thing to do?" Quoting myself from another post: > What other reason could there be for self-described progressives to support the mass importation of homophobic, misogynist, and devoutly religious Muslims, other than their unwavering support for left-wing parties The left enacts policies to alter the demographics of a nation in ways that will virtually guarantee them electoral success, and then they loudly decry anyone who criticizes these policies as a "racist," "xenophobe," or something similar, and then they even have the nerve to write boastful articles like the ones I linked to above; it's too obvious to ignore at this point, and the rise of Trump and other immigration restrictionist candidates is an understandable and overdue response.
    - BookmarkSaver 11y ago
      >The left enacts policies to alter the demographics of a nation in ways that will virtually guarantee them electoral success, and then they loudly decry anyone who criticizes these policies as a "racist," "xenophobe," or something similar Yes... because they are. Because most liberals believe that everyone, regardless of nationality, ethnicity, or creed, deserves equal opportunity. And because they believe in diversity, and compassion, and discriminating or restricting immigration flies in the face of these principles. >and then they even have the nerve to write boastful articles like the ones I linked to above Yes, how dare they celebrate their successes and growing support. What monsters... You act like this is some sort of "gotcha" paradox. It's not. It's perfectly consistent. >to support the mass importation of homophobic, misogynist, and devoutly religious Muslims, First, you are being racist and xenophobic here. You are stereotyping immigrants and you are supporting discrimination against them based on this. Second, you are assuming that everyone shares your racist and xenophobic prejudices. Being against gay marriage, or being a devout Muslim are not reasons in my mind to restrict immigration, even though I think opposing gay marriage is discriminatory and that Islam is a dumb religion. Because I know that this country (USA) has opportunities for a better life than most of the world, and we should grant those opportunities to as many people as is sustainable, something which we aren't even close to achieving. It is called compassion. And defending liberty. It is the foundation of the country, to accept the downtrodden from all over the world. It is the reason that the vast majority of the population is even on this continent in the first place. You sound exactly like a 50's racist ranting about how segregation is ending solely because of a political plot to gain black votes, or someone from even earlier ranting about "those damn Papist Irish" taking over in a conspiracy for the Pope to rule the US. Grow up, sometimes the world isn't as disgustingly cynical as you'd like to believe.