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your attitude is common... and I don't really understand it. I mean, yes, psychology, as a science, and psychiatry as a medical discipline, is young and not ne

by lsc 11y ago

your attitude is common... and I don't really understand it. I mean, yes, psychology, as a science, and psychiatry as a medical discipline, is young and not nearly as systematized and objective as many other sciences. Psychiatry is less so than the rest of medicine, really, and medicine is less so than, say, civil engineering. But, that doesn't mean that it's without value. Sure, there's a lot less value in psychiatry now than there will be once it becomes more like civil engineering, but that's not a reason to ignore what we've got. >The Autism spectrum at this point is so overblown that I'm not sure if it's even correct anymore at some point this looks like it's becoming the new ADHD everyone has it just in a different flavor. Why do you think ADHD is not a useful or "correct" diagnosis? Unlike Autism, there is a spectrum of drugs available which seem to help people who are diagnosed with ADHD quite a lot. Personally, I think that treating these sorts of things is a "social good" to the extent that being productive and able to support oneself is a social good. if you take someone's ADHD and properly treat it, you can take a person who is not capable of contributing positively to the economy, and you can put them in a position where they can hold down an upper-middle class job. I think that for Autism, the workplace is changing some in ways that allow some people who could not previously have held down jobs to do so, which is great, but attacking the problem from the other side; developing medical treatments that allow some percentage of the population to function in society is, in my mind, unalloyed good. edit: more correct psychology/psychiatry usage, I believe.

dogma1138 11y ago
ADHD can't be that new, in less than a decade it turned from less than 1% to 50% in the class room that points at it being a pill pushing campaign. In the 60's you would get slapped and send to bed without dinner (I'm not condoning beating children just stating a fact). There's probably a good reason why ADHD all of a sudden sprouted out with the last of the baby boomers / first millennials which decided to let their children roam free which coincided with us deciding the schools should not long discipline children but just feed them facts, and instead of having kids run around till they fall asleep from exhaustion we stuck them in front of the screen fed with nothing but sugar. A sloth under those conditions would get ADHD. When half your class is on Ritalin something went wrong, and this only makes things worse for people which actually have learning disabilities as it just gives untrained professionals that should not be diagnosing the color of the sky the ability to pump kids with pills because their parents can't give a frack to discipline them. I had 2 childhood friends that were "diagnosed" with ADHD and gotten Ritalin since they were in 6th or 7th grade it turned out that both were dyslexic and got frustrated in class because they had hard time reading the bloody assignments and the actual conditions were discovered pretty much after they flunked high school because the only thing that Ritalin did is glue them to a chair. And yes I see a similar thing with Adult Onset Autism these days. The entire industry is screwed up I got "diagnosed" as a child with everything from being a genius to an autistic with ADHD only because I could care less about class, this got some what aggravated by the fact that my soviet schooled parents decided to tutor me so a 4th grade student that can solve 2nd order equations in 4th grade and is too bored to do homework or had a vocal argument with his 7th grade science teacher that in he that mass isn't a "fixed amount of matter" that never changes (I got expelled for shoving like 50 xerox copies of a very poor proof into every teachers locker) surely has some disorders bring on the pills. Wile the truth was that it was just the outcome of 2 soviet parents with several PHD's between them, father was a surgeon, mother was a psychiatrists, sister a clinical psychologist, other kids weren't as lucky because by reading the diagnosis manual if you like taking the VCR apart you now have autism, right...
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by lsc 11y ago

dogma1138 11y ago

ADHD can't be that new, in less than a decade it turned from less than 1% to 50% in the class room that points at it being a pill pushing campaign. In the 60's you would get slapped and send to bed without dinner (I'm not condoning beating children just stating a fact). There's probably a good reason why ADHD all of a sudden sprouted out with the last of the baby boomers / first millennials which decided to let their children roam free which coincided with us deciding the schools should not long discipline children but just feed them facts, and instead of having kids run around till they fall asleep from exhaustion we stuck them in front of the screen fed with nothing but sugar. A sloth under those conditions would get ADHD. When half your class is on Ritalin something went wrong, and this only makes things worse for people which actually have learning disabilities as it just gives untrained professionals that should not be diagnosing the color of the sky the ability to pump kids with pills because their parents can't give a frack to discipline them. I had 2 childhood friends that were "diagnosed" with ADHD and gotten Ritalin since they were in 6th or 7th grade it turned out that both were dyslexic and got frustrated in class because they had hard time reading the bloody assignments and the actual conditions were discovered pretty much after they flunked high school because the only thing that Ritalin did is glue them to a chair. And yes I see a similar thing with Adult Onset Autism these days. The entire industry is screwed up I got "diagnosed" as a child with everything from being a genius to an autistic with ADHD only because I could care less about class, this got some what aggravated by the fact that my soviet schooled parents decided to tutor me so a 4th grade student that can solve 2nd order equations in 4th grade and is too bored to do homework or had a vocal argument with his 7th grade science teacher that in he that mass isn't a "fixed amount of matter" that never changes (I got expelled for shoving like 50 xerox copies of a very poor proof into every teachers locker) surely has some disorders bring on the pills. Wile the truth was that it was just the outcome of 2 soviet parents with several PHD's between them, father was a surgeon, mother was a psychiatrists, sister a clinical psychologist, other kids weren't as lucky because by reading the diagnosis manual if you like taking the VCR apart you now have autism, right...

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