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>they don't know enough to even know when it would be dangerous to fly 1. You do realize these pilots can already fly passengers, correct? 2. This is the type

by asift 11y ago

>they don't know enough to even know when it would be dangerous to fly 1. You do realize these pilots can already fly passengers, correct? 2. This is the type of problem companies help solve all of the time. The minimum wage worker making my burger has no idea when meat is safe for consumption, but a whole series of internal precautions allows him to serve me a burger in a safe manner.

msellout 11y ago
> This is the type of problem companies help solve all of the time. In your example of food safety, I believe it's your state department of public health that solved the problem, not the restaurant.
- asift 11y ago
  Right...because before the state department came along companies had no interest in feeding their patrons safe food... People are incredibly unscientific when attributing success to governmental regulatory bodies.
  - msellout 11y ago
    Unscientific? By "people" I take it you mean me. I didn't see you cite any research either. Obviously restaurants had an interest in food safety. You're being a little silly with your sarcasm. The question is whether food was as safe as we (citizens) wanted, and whether food safety would improve with government regulation. I suspect the answers were "No" and "Yes", respectively. Take recent issues at Chipotle for example. Without government intervention, they easily might decide that it's cheaper to pay marketers and public relations experts than to improve the safety of their supply chain and service.
mulmen 11y ago
1) Providing commercial passenger service is not the same as giving someone a ride. In the case of commercial service your passengers are your customers and expect a certain level of service. This could motivate you to take additional risks that you would not otherwise take. Such as flying in questionable weather so as not to lose the fare or get a bad rating on the service causing you to miss out on future fares. 2) Flying an airplane is nothing like making a cheeseburger. I do not think it is a worthwhile goal to allow unskilled people to operate airplanes, especially if they are carrying passengers. Instead we should focus on making sure the operators of the planes are as capable as possible to first avoid dangerous situations and then deal with them when they are unavoidable. This is exactly what the FAA does. If you screw up a cheeseburger maybe someone gets sick, if you screw up in an airplane people die. They aren't even remotely the same thing.

by asift 11y ago

msellout 11y ago

> This is the type of problem companies help solve all of the time. In your example of food safety, I believe it's your state department of public health that solved the problem, not the restaurant.

asift 11y ago
Right...because before the state department came along companies had no interest in feeding their patrons safe food... People are incredibly unscientific when attributing success to governmental regulatory bodies.
- msellout 11y ago
  Unscientific? By "people" I take it you mean me. I didn't see you cite any research either. Obviously restaurants had an interest in food safety. You're being a little silly with your sarcasm. The question is whether food was as safe as we (citizens) wanted, and whether food safety would improve with government regulation. I suspect the answers were "No" and "Yes", respectively. Take recent issues at Chipotle for example. Without government intervention, they easily might decide that it's cheaper to pay marketers and public relations experts than to improve the safety of their supply chain and service.

mulmen 11y ago

1) Providing commercial passenger service is not the same as giving someone a ride. In the case of commercial service your passengers are your customers and expect a certain level of service. This could motivate you to take additional risks that you would not otherwise take. Such as flying in questionable weather so as not to lose the fare or get a bad rating on the service causing you to miss out on future fares. 2) Flying an airplane is nothing like making a cheeseburger. I do not think it is a worthwhile goal to allow unskilled people to operate airplanes, especially if they are carrying passengers. Instead we should focus on making sure the operators of the planes are as capable as possible to first avoid dangerous situations and then deal with them when they are unavoidable. This is exactly what the FAA does. If you screw up a cheeseburger maybe someone gets sick, if you screw up in an airplane people die. They aren't even remotely the same thing.