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That's pretty impressive - we've basically stalled at 2.3 because of the Ruby 1.8 upgrade making it near impossible to bump everything we'd need to at this poin

That's pretty impressive - we've basically stalled at 2.3 because of the Ruby 1.8 upgrade making it near impossible to bump everything we'd need to at this point.

dasil003 11y ago
My understanding is this also happened to GitHub and they stayed on 2.3 for years, even maintaining their own fork to handle security issues once official support lapsed. I also understand they eventually realized this wasn't viable long term and made the massive effort to get over the hump. FWIW, the memory and instrumentation improvements in Ruby 2.x alone are worth the massive effort to upgrade. Good luck!
- sandstrom 11y ago
  If you want to read up on how Github transitioned, this post is useful: http://shayfrendt.com/posts/upgrading-github-to-rails-3-with-zero-downtime/ http://shayfrendt.com/posts/upgrading-github-to-rails-3-with... Getting stuck on 2.3 isn't desirable.
- brightball 11y ago
  One of the projects I deal with on a daily basis is a 200k line of code monolith on 2.3. We've got a paid for version of 2.3 from a company that releases security patches for it. Everything else at the company is microservices now, but this one system still has a few million customers.
- jon-wood 11y ago
  Yeah, we're paying for security updates to 2.3 rather than maintaining our own fork, although we do have an increasing stack of backported features. Our approach to getting off 2.3 is to extract core functionality out into smaller API driven applications, with the eventual goal of being able to turn off the monolithic 2.3 based application.
meesterdude 11y ago
IIRC, there's a service that handles the upgrades for you. found it! https://www.railsasaservice.com/ https://www.railsasaservice.com/
- dasil003 11y ago
  That is genius. A huge market opportunity for sure. The question is whether they have the economics right to earn a nice profit; could be tricky, but I guess if you do it day in and day out you get it dialed in pretty well.
  - jon-wood 11y ago
    Judging by the quote I got from them, yes, they can run very comfortably on that sort of money.

That's pretty impressive - we've basically stalled at 2.3 because of the Ruby 1.8 upgrade making it near impossible to bump everything we'd need to at this point.

dasil003 11y ago

My understanding is this also happened to GitHub and they stayed on 2.3 for years, even maintaining their own fork to handle security issues once official support lapsed. I also understand they eventually realized this wasn't viable long term and made the massive effort to get over the hump. FWIW, the memory and instrumentation improvements in Ruby 2.x alone are worth the massive effort to upgrade. Good luck!

sandstrom 11y ago
If you want to read up on how Github transitioned, this post is useful: http://shayfrendt.com/posts/upgrading-github-to-rails-3-with-zero-downtime/ http://shayfrendt.com/posts/upgrading-github-to-rails-3-with... Getting stuck on 2.3 isn't desirable.
brightball 11y ago
One of the projects I deal with on a daily basis is a 200k line of code monolith on 2.3. We've got a paid for version of 2.3 from a company that releases security patches for it. Everything else at the company is microservices now, but this one system still has a few million customers.
jon-wood 11y ago
Yeah, we're paying for security updates to 2.3 rather than maintaining our own fork, although we do have an increasing stack of backported features. Our approach to getting off 2.3 is to extract core functionality out into smaller API driven applications, with the eventual goal of being able to turn off the monolithic 2.3 based application.

meesterdude 11y ago

IIRC, there's a service that handles the upgrades for you. found it! https://www.railsasaservice.com/ https://www.railsasaservice.com/

dasil003 11y ago
That is genius. A huge market opportunity for sure. The question is whether they have the economics right to earn a nice profit; could be tricky, but I guess if you do it day in and day out you get it dialed in pretty well.
- jon-wood 11y ago
  Judging by the quote I got from them, yes, they can run very comfortably on that sort of money.