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My firefox bookmark manager contains about 1300 links. Since quite a while I was really unhappy with this solution. Link rot is really bad and it's sad when eve

My firefox bookmark manager contains about 1300 links. Since quite a while I was really unhappy with this solution. Link rot is really bad and it's sad when even internet archive does not contain the lost site. The only solution to this problem I found is storing the links locally. I'm now in the process of importing everything into OneNote (onenote clipper is a huge help). A big plus is, that the content is indexed and fully searchable. I probably would not do this if internet archive was more reliable. I'm ok with this solution, but it's a bit strange that firefox/chrome/IE haven't made this process of storing sites locally easier.

DanBC 11y ago
Google don't want you to use bookmarks, which is why Google Chrome bookmarking sucks. There's definitely a niche in the market for a bookmarking site that does some form of bulk importing of your bookmarks; has really easy organisation (drag and drop, and an API for power users); has some kind of thumb-nail; has some kind of link to Internet Archive (to read old sites); and maybe a link to IA to store sites. The internet archive stuff could be a paid option with some money going to IA to help fund them.
- syaz1 11y ago
  > Google don't want you to use bookmarks, which is why Google Chrome bookmarking sucks. Why?
  - DanBC 11y ago
    Google wants you to search, so they can show you ads in the search results.
    - cooper12 11y ago
      Same thing for the history. Chrome's history forces you to view it page by page just to find something from a while back while Firefox will gladly let you view the history per month. It also makes removing items a huge pain because you have to individually check each item. (I'm aware of the "clear recent history" feature, but not what I'm looking for)
- keyserzose 11y ago
  Do you mean something like Pocket (https://getpocket.com https://getpocket.com)?
pronoiac 11y ago
Have you tried Pinboard? Their archiving option might suit your needs.
carussell 11y ago
I was toying with the idea of a browser archiving mode for Firefox that would allow something like or "save local copies of everything in my history" or "just save local copies of all my bookmarks". I sketched out a few use cases. < https://wiki.mozilla.org/Permafrost https://wiki.mozilla.org/Permafrost > Social and technological hurdles for development were big enough that I never pursued it past that. One issue is that the Firefox product inside Mozilla was starting on a trajectory towards becoming increasingly inward-focused, disfavoring ideas that didn't come from within, and following a more corporatized product development approach. So what one would need to do (and ideally everyone working on new, discrete features should be doing, anyway) is to start out by building it as an extension to work as a proving ground. The problem there is, in order for that to work in any sort of reasonable way, changes to Firefox itself would need to be made (APIs reworked) so that the surface exposed to you there is not one that's running orthogonal to what you need. So in order to develop the thing, you'd need to get some cooperation to get these non-trivial core changes upstream. GOTO 10 AFAIK (I used to be on top of a huge part of what came out of the Mozilla firehose, but I don't do any of that anymore), the whole situation is no better today (and really, from what I understand, much worse). Chromium might be better there, but I really have no idea.
greglindahl 11y ago
Another option is to use the Wayback Machine's "save page now" functionality. And for local storage, check out https://webrecorder.io/ https://webrecorder.io/ for an example implementation.
- nypar 11y ago
  In Firefox I recommend the use of this bookmarklet (save current page into : Archive.is, Wayback Machine/Internet Archive, WebCite) http://that1archive.neocities.org/tools/bookmarklets.html http://that1archive.neocities.org/tools/bookmarklets.html

DanBC 11y ago

Google don't want you to use bookmarks, which is why Google Chrome bookmarking sucks. There's definitely a niche in the market for a bookmarking site that does some form of bulk importing of your bookmarks; has really easy organisation (drag and drop, and an API for power users); has some kind of thumb-nail; has some kind of link to Internet Archive (to read old sites); and maybe a link to IA to store sites. The internet archive stuff could be a paid option with some money going to IA to help fund them.

syaz1 11y ago
> Google don't want you to use bookmarks, which is why Google Chrome bookmarking sucks. Why?
- DanBC 11y ago
  Google wants you to search, so they can show you ads in the search results.
  - cooper12 11y ago
    Same thing for the history. Chrome's history forces you to view it page by page just to find something from a while back while Firefox will gladly let you view the history per month. It also makes removing items a huge pain because you have to individually check each item. (I'm aware of the "clear recent history" feature, but not what I'm looking for)
keyserzose 11y ago
Do you mean something like Pocket (https://getpocket.com https://getpocket.com)?

pronoiac 11y ago

Have you tried Pinboard? Their archiving option might suit your needs.

carussell 11y ago

I was toying with the idea of a browser archiving mode for Firefox that would allow something like or "save local copies of everything in my history" or "just save local copies of all my bookmarks". I sketched out a few use cases. < https://wiki.mozilla.org/Permafrost https://wiki.mozilla.org/Permafrost > Social and technological hurdles for development were big enough that I never pursued it past that. One issue is that the Firefox product inside Mozilla was starting on a trajectory towards becoming increasingly inward-focused, disfavoring ideas that didn't come from within, and following a more corporatized product development approach. So what one would need to do (and ideally everyone working on new, discrete features should be doing, anyway) is to start out by building it as an extension to work as a proving ground. The problem there is, in order for that to work in any sort of reasonable way, changes to Firefox itself would need to be made (APIs reworked) so that the surface exposed to you there is not one that's running orthogonal to what you need. So in order to develop the thing, you'd need to get some cooperation to get these non-trivial core changes upstream. GOTO 10 AFAIK (I used to be on top of a huge part of what came out of the Mozilla firehose, but I don't do any of that anymore), the whole situation is no better today (and really, from what I understand, much worse). Chromium might be better there, but I really have no idea.

greglindahl 11y ago

Another option is to use the Wayback Machine's "save page now" functionality. And for local storage, check out https://webrecorder.io/ https://webrecorder.io/ for an example implementation.

nypar 11y ago
In Firefox I recommend the use of this bookmarklet (save current page into : Archive.is, Wayback Machine/Internet Archive, WebCite) http://that1archive.neocities.org/tools/bookmarklets.html http://that1archive.neocities.org/tools/bookmarklets.html