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Unfortunately this ships with an already outdated version of android and fairphone has explicitly said they will not guarantee support for Marshmallow. They hav

Unfortunately this ships with an already outdated version of android and fairphone has explicitly said they will not guarantee support for Marshmallow. They have solid reasons for this, but that is a pretty big down side as a potential customer. In fact, I'll go so far as to say: If the android OS cannot be kept updated, claiming that this phone has what it takes to last you more than 2 years is ridiculous. Even if you somehow get to keep security updates coming, there will be features in the new OS that are worth upgrading for even if the hardware is still perfectly fine, and apps will begin requiring an OS version you don't have.

gcb0 11y ago
newer version of android stop being relevant after 4.4 down vote all you want, but there's no security or functionality after that. only silly animations and insane bright color schemes.
- nickpsecurity 11y ago
  They don't do bug or vulnerability fixes in new releases?
  - gcb0 11y ago
    no relevant vulnerability since 4.4. before that you have ssl holes and lock screen issues. after that you only have to worry about vendor specific "enhancements" that only add issues.
    - mcintyre1994 11y ago
      There was a security update in November : http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-november-security-patch-live http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-november-security-pat... And from that link: > Google also states the "most severe of these issues is a Critical security vulnerability that could enable remote code execution on an affected device through multiple methods such as email, web browsing, and MMS when processing media files," Sounds pretty relevant and severe to me.
- skybrian 11y ago
  Android 6 fixes the permission system. That's pretty fundamental. http://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting.html http://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting...
  - gcb0 11y ago
    that's in my list of useless features. if you don't use your phone like clueless people used their computers (i.e. install 20 browser tool bars and such) you have zero need for it. also, that was included since 2.3 but never exposed (some custom firmwares did)
    - mcintyre1994 11y ago
      I disagree. There are perfectly reasonable reasons for Facebook's messenger app to request access to my photos (so I can send them). If I don't use that feature though, there's no reason they should be able to secretly upload all my photos - which they could if they got the permission at install.
    - roywiggins 11y ago
      What about when an app you have updates, and requests a new permission you don't want to give? Either you never take an update again for that app (which might mean leaving in bugs and security holes) or uninstall the app and hunt around for a replacement that doesn't require even more extensive permissions. It's a pain.

gcb0 11y ago

newer version of android stop being relevant after 4.4 down vote all you want, but there's no security or functionality after that. only silly animations and insane bright color schemes.

nickpsecurity 11y ago
They don't do bug or vulnerability fixes in new releases?
- gcb0 11y ago
  no relevant vulnerability since 4.4. before that you have ssl holes and lock screen issues. after that you only have to worry about vendor specific "enhancements" that only add issues.
  - mcintyre1994 11y ago
    There was a security update in November : http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-november-security-patch-live http://www.androidcentral.com/androids-november-security-pat... And from that link: > Google also states the "most severe of these issues is a Critical security vulnerability that could enable remote code execution on an affected device through multiple methods such as email, web browsing, and MMS when processing media files," Sounds pretty relevant and severe to me.
skybrian 11y ago
Android 6 fixes the permission system. That's pretty fundamental. http://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting.html http://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting...
- gcb0 11y ago
  that's in my list of useless features. if you don't use your phone like clueless people used their computers (i.e. install 20 browser tool bars and such) you have zero need for it. also, that was included since 2.3 but never exposed (some custom firmwares did)
  - mcintyre1994 11y ago
    I disagree. There are perfectly reasonable reasons for Facebook's messenger app to request access to my photos (so I can send them). If I don't use that feature though, there's no reason they should be able to secretly upload all my photos - which they could if they got the permission at install.
  - roywiggins 11y ago
    What about when an app you have updates, and requests a new permission you don't want to give? Either you never take an update again for that app (which might mean leaving in bugs and security holes) or uninstall the app and hunt around for a replacement that doesn't require even more extensive permissions. It's a pain.