> By very definition most people go to universities or institutions that "don't matter" in your eyes. Most of the so called "universities" are nothing but a ca

> By very definition most people go to universities or institutions that "don't matter" in your eyes. Most of the so called "universities" are nothing but a cargo cult education. They're only damaging their students. This insanity must stop. > You can't rule out the majority of the population in a discussion about the nature of higher education just because it doesn't fit your narrative about what college should be. I can. If the majority is a counterfeit product it can be simply ignored. Only the genuine education matters. > trying hard because they are deeply passionate about learning is absolutely ridiculous They're 20 years old. Of course only a minority is passionate about learning. But at least there is a majority who consciously understand the reason they're doing it (and no, the reason is not a degree). > but in the US employers want to see proof I thought we're not discussing Mordor in this thread. Mordor experience is irrelevant. > Putting someone through a 4 year arbitrary filter is a ridiculous practice which should stop Invent a better filter then. > Making someone rack up 80-120K in additional student debt Once again, we're not discussing Mordor here.