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It's useful to note that Paul Ryan gained his position by saying shady backroom deals like this, plus giving Congress almost no time to read and think about the
by merpnderp 11y ago
It's useful to note that Paul Ryan gained his position by saying shady backroom deals like this, plus giving Congress almost no time to read and think about the bill themselves, were the exact things he promised to stop.
So his very first act as speaker is to break every single promise he made to become speaker.
- SturgeonsLaw 11y agoI am Jack's complete lack of surprise
- owly 11y agoIndeed.
- twoodfin 11y agoIt's useful to note that Paul Ryan gained his position by saying shady backroom deals like this, plus giving Congress almost no time to read and think about the bill themselves, were the exact things he promised to stop. He did? I thought he got the job (after much cajoling) because he was the only candidate the moderate and right wings of the GOP could agree on.
- tptacek 11y agoYes. He had to be courted; the House Freedom Caucus had to make concessions for him to accept the job. The modal HN user has either a DailyKos or RedState (mostly Kos) understanding of US politics.
- pvg 11y agoWhat concessions did they make? It was the other way round, he made a list of demands and they said no and then proceeded to not-endorse him.
- tptacek 11y agoThe Freedom Caucus killed Kevin McCarthy's bid, even after it had been seen as a fait accompli, and made a list of demands for candidates for the speakership. Paul Ryan publicly rejected those demands, and was elected speaker without any of the process change demands that Freedom had said were requirements. The idea that Ryan got the speakership through backroom deals is false. The House majority was in disarray following the sudden departure of Boehner and the failure of McCarthy's bid; the political media at the time was discussing how long the House could run without a speaker and what kind of rift the debacle would create in the GOP. Ryan was more or less drafted into the position.
- pvg 11y agoThey didn't endorse him, did they? He also made a list of demands in order to run, and when his demands were rejected, he ran anyway. Saying they made concessions is a strange way of putting it.
- tptacek 11y agoI don't think I meant to imply that Freedom "endorsed" him.
- crusso 11y agoThe Freedom Caucus killed Kevin McCarthy's bid McCarthy killed his bid with one interview on Hannity where he implied that he had helped orchestrate the Benghazi committee as a means to take down Hillary. That was the slip-up that gave the Freedom Caucus the necessary leverage they needed. Other than that, I agree with your understanding of how Ryan became Speaker.
- merpnderp 11y agoDrudge and the conservative media has been all over him for this. They're calling him a liar and a failure. Rush Limbaugh is calling for the disbanding of the Republican party over this. So I'm not sure how Kos figures in to this (FYI, I don't read Kos).