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CISA is now law.

45 points by shpx 11y ago

Fjolsvith 11y ago
And if anyone has anything to say about it, the CIA, NSA and FBI will take note.
blazespin 11y ago
It sucks, but inevitable. The simple reality is that the internet has become almost completely not usable for businesses just trying to business. I think instead of fighting this stuff we should fight for educational laws such that when your browser comes up or all advertising by any ISP should include warnings your information is easily accessible by government agencies - and how it's available. In fact, I'd like to see Google's default web page (as well as Bing and DuckDuckGo) have a list of very very plain spoken warnings about how easy your data can be compromised. Browser finger printing, MITM attacks, etc.
- pdkl95 11y ago
  > has become almost completely not usable for businesses just trying to business Maybe they should have invested in proper end-to-end crypto and actually care about security. If you business depends entirely on a resource, it's usually a good idea to protect that resource. > Google's default web page Why would google do that? You're asking them to completely undermine their business model. Google/Facebook/etc are just as bad as governments in their desire to vacuum up as much personal data as possible. Usually, there isn't much of a difference between government and business - national security letters, PRISM, and FAIRVIEW (AT&T) mean that whatever these private business have is also available to government (or anybody else that can gain access to the data). Both sides like the arrangement, so why would they put up warnings? That would only reduce the amount of data they get to play with.
  - blazespin 11y ago
    There should be a law that warnings should be present.
    - pdkl95 11y ago
      Why would the government pass such a law that reduces their surveillance capability? The question is how to fix institutional corruption block the public-private partnerships. When that is accomplished will we have the luxury of worrying about legislating warni8ngs.

45 points by shpx 11y ago

And if anyone has anything to say about it, the CIA, NSA and FBI will take note.

It sucks, but inevitable. The simple reality is that the internet has become almost completely not usable for businesses just trying to business. I think instead of fighting this stuff we should fight for educational laws such that when your browser comes up or all advertising by any ISP should include warnings your information is easily accessible by government agencies - and how it's available. In fact, I'd like to see Google's default web page (as well as Bing and DuckDuckGo) have a list of very very plain spoken warnings about how easy your data can be compromised. Browser finger printing, MITM attacks, etc.

pdkl95 11y ago
> has become almost completely not usable for businesses just trying to business Maybe they should have invested in proper end-to-end crypto and actually care about security. If you business depends entirely on a resource, it's usually a good idea to protect that resource. > Google's default web page Why would google do that? You're asking them to completely undermine their business model. Google/Facebook/etc are just as bad as governments in their desire to vacuum up as much personal data as possible. Usually, there isn't much of a difference between government and business - national security letters, PRISM, and FAIRVIEW (AT&T) mean that whatever these private business have is also available to government (or anybody else that can gain access to the data). Both sides like the arrangement, so why would they put up warnings? That would only reduce the amount of data they get to play with.
- blazespin 11y ago
  There should be a law that warnings should be present.
  - pdkl95 11y ago
    Why would the government pass such a law that reduces their surveillance capability? The question is how to fix institutional corruption block the public-private partnerships. When that is accomplished will we have the luxury of worrying about legislating warni8ngs.