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An important point: In a world of free sex and abundant resources, for a man, it totally pays off to learn the art of seduction than other arts (productive stu

by NTDF9 11y ago

An important point: In a world of free sex and abundant resources, for a man, it totally pays off to learn the art of seduction than other arts (productive stuff like STEM, economics etc....real stuff with economic value). Women are easy to get with the right amount of time, right words and actions. Education, moral values, caring nature etc. have almost ZERO appeal in attracting most vapid women in today's world. So why would most men (who don't have economic worries...or are just dumb) put any effort in their most productive years learning important skills? ------------------------------------------------------- This article also misses the observation that men are a spectrum of attractive to unattractive (whatever attractiveness means to women). With that in mind, attractive men can quickly log on to a dating app, message a 100 women and some of those women will respond positively (leading to sex). For unattractive guys, most girls don't respond (so no sex for them). Today's dating world is so fucked up that most of my male peers have absolutely no interest in dealing with female emotional concerns. They end up in "open relationships" which women agree to be in (because they have been told it's ok) and then suffer heartbreak....whereas the other guys (who don't get sex) just sit at home playing video games. Even women don't want to "settle" until 30s by which they don't have any sexual appeal to men. Marriage just doesn't have any appeal. What's the point of getting married? What does a woman bring to the table that they can't get themselves (except emotional turmoil)? There's no reason to get tied in a legal commitment that if broken, would be extremely expensive and scarring. Why won't guys grow up? They have grown up. Women are the kids expecting a man to marry them if they are not bringing anything to the table except declining sexuality and years of partying and baggage and still expecting men to take their legal burden. Source: 27 yr old male in SF city.

CyberDildonics 11y ago
> vapid women in today's world. I think most of what you said is pretty on point except for this - I'm not one to say that everyone is equally astute on the whole but I don't think it's fair to call most women vapid any more than it would be for them to call people who read hacker news 'losers' (because geeks made being a geek/nerd cool).
- NTDF9 11y ago
  The reason I brought it up is because of the irony of their demands. Most women want men who have it all figured out (aka grown up men) but themselves don't realize how imperfect they are. They'd rather spend hours on pinterest looking at hair ties of different colors than on something that gets their student loans out, career planning, family planning etc. So many women are vapid but want a guy who makes six figures, is six feet tall, knows how to build a car from ground up and can has some cool artistic side and yet can fight drug overlords....I mean...these are such divergent qualities and skills...it's pretty funny when one hears it out loud. If they expect an amazing guy with everything figured out (aka worked his socks off his entire life exploring different things and learning how to deal with shit), they better be amazing too. EDIT: To answer you: I agree...so many men who don't take care of themselves want a hot supermodel with a degree in physics. It's just so divergent. Many men suffer from the same dichotomy.

by NTDF9 11y ago

CyberDildonics 11y ago

> vapid women in today's world. I think most of what you said is pretty on point except for this - I'm not one to say that everyone is equally astute on the whole but I don't think it's fair to call most women vapid any more than it would be for them to call people who read hacker news 'losers' (because geeks made being a geek/nerd cool).

NTDF9 11y ago
The reason I brought it up is because of the irony of their demands. Most women want men who have it all figured out (aka grown up men) but themselves don't realize how imperfect they are. They'd rather spend hours on pinterest looking at hair ties of different colors than on something that gets their student loans out, career planning, family planning etc. So many women are vapid but want a guy who makes six figures, is six feet tall, knows how to build a car from ground up and can has some cool artistic side and yet can fight drug overlords....I mean...these are such divergent qualities and skills...it's pretty funny when one hears it out loud. If they expect an amazing guy with everything figured out (aka worked his socks off his entire life exploring different things and learning how to deal with shit), they better be amazing too. EDIT: To answer you: I agree...so many men who don't take care of themselves want a hot supermodel with a degree in physics. It's just so divergent. Many men suffer from the same dichotomy.