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Don't they realize how dumb they look? Their standard response to any criticism is to dig through things which have happened in the past as a result of US acti

by heresy 17y ago

Don't they realize how dumb they look? Their standard response to any criticism is to dig through things which have happened in the past as a result of US action, make huge leaps of logic, and then justify whatever it is they did in terms of that. Never mind the right or the wrong of the issue... I guess that's the sin/shame culture difference. For them it doesn't matter what they did, it matters that they got caught. And justifying it in terms of what someone else did means they regain "honor" or whatever the fuck it is they're trying to do...

est 17y ago
> Don't they realize how dumb they look? After reviewing the 60 years history of PRC, no they don't. The CCP is called TuGong or TuBaLu by the population for a reason, which literally means 'the party of hick bandits'
Towle_ 17y ago
>Don't they realize how dumb they look? I think this is the wrong question to ask. More like, "Do they care at all how they are perceived in the West?" And the answer to that question has to be a resounding "NO"-- and for good reason. Attempts at 'real diplomacy' (define as you will) are for nations which have reason to fear the repercussions of their actions. For the CCP, no such fear exists, nor should it. What's the worst any nation will do in retaliation to anything China has done throughout this whole affair, including, but not limited to, lying about what happened? What is the United States or anyone else going to do? Embargo CHINA? Risk war (cyber or real-world) WITH CHINA? Obviously not. We need them too much; if we couldn't trade with China, the standard of living in the US would plummet, tons and tons of American corporations would go under, and countless Americans would be out of work because of it. Dislike the CCP for their ideological differences though we may, we'd never do anything more than slap them on the wrist (in 2010, anyway...2030 is a different story). The CCP knows they're untouchable. That's why they act the way they do. edit: Sorry about the caps lock. I'm a noob here and don't know how to italicize or bold yet. :( Halp, anyone? edit #2: In the paragraph which begins, "Attempts at...": When I say, "For the CCP, no such fear exists, nor should it," I do NOT mean to say that it is a good thing for any nation to have license to act in this way. Rather, it was my intent to say that the CCP is correct to believe they can get away with such actions without risking serious repercussion.
- sparky 17y ago
  You can italicize with stars. Don't think you can bold.
  - Towle_ 17y ago
    Thanks sparky
papersmith 17y ago
A good portion of the top CCP leadership were promoted based on loyalty rather than meritocracy, so they are generally not the brightest of the bunch. That being said, I can understand how this would make sense for an audience in China. China was ruined by one revolution after another for the last hundred years, each time under an idealist with a new promise of salvation, people have inevitably become cynical to the idea of violent changes.
- benmathes 17y ago
  All that takes is a few generations to pass so the collective memory forgets. And then the empire united must divide.

by heresy 17y ago

est 17y ago

> Don't they realize how dumb they look? After reviewing the 60 years history of PRC, no they don't. The CCP is called TuGong or TuBaLu by the population for a reason, which literally means 'the party of hick bandits'

Towle_ 17y ago

>Don't they realize how dumb they look? I think this is the wrong question to ask. More like, "Do they care at all how they are perceived in the West?" And the answer to that question has to be a resounding "NO"-- and for good reason. Attempts at 'real diplomacy' (define as you will) are for nations which have reason to fear the repercussions of their actions. For the CCP, no such fear exists, nor should it. What's the worst any nation will do in retaliation to anything China has done throughout this whole affair, including, but not limited to, lying about what happened? What is the United States or anyone else going to do? Embargo CHINA? Risk war (cyber or real-world) WITH CHINA? Obviously not. We need them too much; if we couldn't trade with China, the standard of living in the US would plummet, tons and tons of American corporations would go under, and countless Americans would be out of work because of it. Dislike the CCP for their ideological differences though we may, we'd never do anything more than slap them on the wrist (in 2010, anyway...2030 is a different story). The CCP knows they're untouchable. That's why they act the way they do. edit: Sorry about the caps lock. I'm a noob here and don't know how to italicize or bold yet. :( Halp, anyone? edit #2: In the paragraph which begins, "Attempts at...": When I say, "For the CCP, no such fear exists, nor should it," I do NOT mean to say that it is a good thing for any nation to have license to act in this way. Rather, it was my intent to say that the CCP is correct to believe they can get away with such actions without risking serious repercussion.

sparky 17y ago
You can italicize with stars. Don't think you can bold.
- Towle_ 17y ago
  Thanks sparky

papersmith 17y ago

A good portion of the top CCP leadership were promoted based on loyalty rather than meritocracy, so they are generally not the brightest of the bunch. That being said, I can understand how this would make sense for an audience in China. China was ruined by one revolution after another for the last hundred years, each time under an idealist with a new promise of salvation, people have inevitably become cynical to the idea of violent changes.

benmathes 17y ago
All that takes is a few generations to pass so the collective memory forgets. And then the empire united must divide.