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Working in Europe I can never believe these fantasy numbers from the U.S. 250k USD after 5 years, seriously? A good Senior Developer here, with 5-10 years of re
by lilcarlyung 11y ago
Working in Europe I can never believe these fantasy numbers from the U.S. 250k USD after 5 years, seriously? A good Senior Developer here, with 5-10 years of relevant experience, might have a base salary of around 50-60K EUR, and perhaps another 0-2K EUR in bonuses. Then you have to pay around 30% income tax and another 20% if you hit a certain income bracket (which you do with 50K) in many Western European countries. If you want to make more you need to do contract work or roll your own business.
- pluma 11y agoThank you for speaking some sense. Sometimes HN tends to make people believe it is representative of all people everywhere in the world. It's not even about skill. It's just the effect of living in the SV echo chamber of billion-dollar start ups and multi-billion-dollar BigCos.
- aianus 11y agoIt's real and if you're willing to move to SV, they're always hiring.
- pzone 11y agoBut also get ridiculously lucky or be past the 95th percentile of coders.
- TulliusCicero 11y agoNah. Programmers at Google, Facebook, et al. are all pretty solid, but most aren't amazing ninja rockstars or whatever. I'm at one of them, been doing fine career-wise and I'm certainly not mind-blowingly good or anything.
- TulliusCicero 11y agoI know they sound like fantasy (I'm from the US but certainly didn't hear numbers like this while I was still in school), but believe me, they're very real. They're a relatively small subset of programmer salaries, but they're still big enough to cause an upward pulling effect on other companies, such that average software engineering salaries seem to be much higher in the US than in Europe, too.