I know what GTK stands for :) I'm just saying it fails at that use case. It's actually fine for Gnome, I don't mind Gnome 3 at all, took some getting used to bu

I know what GTK stands for :) I'm just saying it fails at that use case. It's actually fine for Gnome, I don't mind Gnome 3 at all, took some getting used to but it's working fine for me and I like the way it looks with some themes and extensions (Arc theme is great IMO and dock extension + alt-tab no group is all I need). Where GTK+ fails is providing GUI components that can be compact and information dense, all of it's widgets and layouts are designed arround white space heavy low density content/GUI - that just doesn't work for complex apps - GIMP/Inkscape being prime examples of bad GUI it creates.