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Easy solution. Make ALL cars follow the law just as strictly as the driverless ones do. Cameras everywhere for enforcement. If driverless cars are a thing, then

by Apreche 11y ago

Easy solution. Make ALL cars follow the law just as strictly as the driverless ones do. Cameras everywhere for enforcement. If driverless cars are a thing, then there's no reason we can't punish people by permanently taking away their drivers licenses for making even small mistakes. When you drive, you are taking life and death into your hands. It's the ultimate responsibility. Cars kill as many people as guns in the US. If you don't take driving extremely seriously, or are incapable of doing it at an expert level without mistakes, then you shouldn't have the privilege of doing so.

ColinWright 11y ago
That will be just as easy as enforcing gun control. No politician would survive - American society is predicated on everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime. In the vast majority of the US, if you can't or won't drive, you are regarded as abnormal, almost sub-human. A colleague of mine was eventually driven to the situation of having a non-drivers drivers license, because no one would accept checks without him showing his drivers license. And no, his passport wouldn't suffice, because the people behind the counter had never seen one and didn't accept that it was valid ID. You'll never enforce stronger driving laws - driving is seen as a right, and you'll never take it away.
- coffeedan 11y ago
  Who said anything about stronger driving laws or taking away the right to drive? Whether or not you have the right to drive, you don't have the right to drive illegally - with today's laws. These cars are, no doubt, going to have cameras and sensors everywhere, so I'd say forget about putting cameras everywhere, just use the on-board cameras/sensors on the driverless cars themselves to catch people breaking driving laws.
  - ColinWright 11y ago
    I was responding to this: ... there's no reason we can't punish people by permanently taking away their drivers licenses for making even small mistakes. That would require stronger driving laws.
- thecolorblue 11y ago
  I second this. Ohio recently passed a bill severely limiting the use of speed cameras. They caused to many unhappy citizens, regardless of the lives they probably saved. Changing peoples habits (good or otherwise) is pretty difficult.
Shivetya 11y ago
I remember a TV show showing one of the main characters riding a motorcycle and passing sensors along the road which apparently only randomly wake up; end result he was fined from his social security retirement account. The key to more enforcement is of course more means of observation but I am not keen on camera's everywhere, let alone those that can identify us easily. Granted society is moving that way. I did post before that for security to work as well as many politicians want it will have to be nearly as omnipresent as possible and the work that techies have cut out for them is to insure that it is as unobtrusive as possible while still protecting privacy. So, back to the point. 100% enforcement isn't necessary. The detection merely needs to be random enough that people always think its active and think they will be eventually caught.

by Apreche 11y ago

ColinWright 11y ago

That will be just as easy as enforcing gun control. No politician would survive - American society is predicated on everyone being able to drive anywhere, anytime. In the vast majority of the US, if you can't or won't drive, you are regarded as abnormal, almost sub-human. A colleague of mine was eventually driven to the situation of having a non-drivers drivers license, because no one would accept checks without him showing his drivers license. And no, his passport wouldn't suffice, because the people behind the counter had never seen one and didn't accept that it was valid ID. You'll never enforce stronger driving laws - driving is seen as a right, and you'll never take it away.

coffeedan 11y ago
Who said anything about stronger driving laws or taking away the right to drive? Whether or not you have the right to drive, you don't have the right to drive illegally - with today's laws. These cars are, no doubt, going to have cameras and sensors everywhere, so I'd say forget about putting cameras everywhere, just use the on-board cameras/sensors on the driverless cars themselves to catch people breaking driving laws.
- ColinWright 11y ago
  I was responding to this: ... there's no reason we can't punish people by permanently taking away their drivers licenses for making even small mistakes. That would require stronger driving laws.
thecolorblue 11y ago
I second this. Ohio recently passed a bill severely limiting the use of speed cameras. They caused to many unhappy citizens, regardless of the lives they probably saved. Changing peoples habits (good or otherwise) is pretty difficult.

Shivetya 11y ago

I remember a TV show showing one of the main characters riding a motorcycle and passing sensors along the road which apparently only randomly wake up; end result he was fined from his social security retirement account. The key to more enforcement is of course more means of observation but I am not keen on camera's everywhere, let alone those that can identify us easily. Granted society is moving that way. I did post before that for security to work as well as many politicians want it will have to be nearly as omnipresent as possible and the work that techies have cut out for them is to insure that it is as unobtrusive as possible while still protecting privacy. So, back to the point. 100% enforcement isn't necessary. The detection merely needs to be random enough that people always think its active and think they will be eventually caught.