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>> Why. > You must be a vim user... Best. Reply. Ever. (Full disclosure: I used Vim for about four years, then switched to emacs. So I know and like both edi

by krylon 11y ago

>> Why. > You must be a vim user... Best. Reply. Ever. (Full disclosure: I used Vim for about four years, then switched to emacs. So I know and like both editors, but prefer emacs.)

PeCaN 11y ago
Do you use evil-mode? I went the opposite direction (Emacs -> vim -> now kak[1]), and I find non-modal editing quite frustrating now. 1: https://github.com/mawww/kakoune https://github.com/mawww/kakoune
- krylon 11y ago
  I've been meaning to look into it for a while, but so far I haven't found the time. On the other hand, I am under no pressure.
- tetraodonpuffer 11y ago
  I have been thinking about switching and currently use evil-mode but in default emacs, so I can switch to vim bindings if I want to but when I open a new buffer it's in emacs mode, however to me modal editing can be less productive I mean, vim's modal language is more expressive, and you can get things done faster, but if I am coding I want most of my brain power to be on the algorithm I write, and I find that sometimes coming up with cool vim motions to do what I need to do instead of up-up-up-delete-up-up-up-delete etc. pulls me out of the zone a little bit because I have to engage my brain more. For pure fun editing yes, I agree that modal editing is cool, and it is quite nice to be able to do complex text changes without really ever using the cursor keys, but when I am deeply concentrating I don't know, I don't care if I take two seconds longer to do something because I use the cursor keys because in the end those two seconds are seconds I use to think about the problem at hand anyways, which is not "how do I get to that spot and do that text change as quickly as possible" Not sure, maybe if I give it more time it will become more automatic, but after a few weeks of mostly vim/evil-mode editing I still reach for emacs when doing "serious work"

by krylon 11y ago

>> Why. > You must be a vim user... Best. Reply. Ever. (Full disclosure: I used Vim for about four years, then switched to emacs. So I know and like both editors, but prefer emacs.)

PeCaN 11y ago

Do you use evil-mode? I went the opposite direction (Emacs -> vim -> now kak[1]), and I find non-modal editing quite frustrating now. 1: https://github.com/mawww/kakoune https://github.com/mawww/kakoune

krylon 11y ago
I've been meaning to look into it for a while, but so far I haven't found the time. On the other hand, I am under no pressure.
tetraodonpuffer 11y ago
I have been thinking about switching and currently use evil-mode but in default emacs, so I can switch to vim bindings if I want to but when I open a new buffer it's in emacs mode, however to me modal editing can be less productive I mean, vim's modal language is more expressive, and you can get things done faster, but if I am coding I want most of my brain power to be on the algorithm I write, and I find that sometimes coming up with cool vim motions to do what I need to do instead of up-up-up-delete-up-up-up-delete etc. pulls me out of the zone a little bit because I have to engage my brain more. For pure fun editing yes, I agree that modal editing is cool, and it is quite nice to be able to do complex text changes without really ever using the cursor keys, but when I am deeply concentrating I don't know, I don't care if I take two seconds longer to do something because I use the cursor keys because in the end those two seconds are seconds I use to think about the problem at hand anyways, which is not "how do I get to that spot and do that text change as quickly as possible" Not sure, maybe if I give it more time it will become more automatic, but after a few weeks of mostly vim/evil-mode editing I still reach for emacs when doing "serious work"