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Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? There was a point about simplifying its configuration syntax. Also, as a long time BSD fanboy, I've never cons

Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? There was a point about simplifying its configuration syntax. Also, as a long time BSD fanboy, I've never considered OpenBSD to be a desktop OS. It's a great OS that I use on routers and servers, but never a desktop. I had a period where I used FreeBSD on my laptop but once I went Linux, I never looked back.

Gracana 11y ago
> Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? You're thinking of doas, perhaps? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/doas.1 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/...
moviuro 11y ago
The utility is now doas(1) (http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/doas.1 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/...) Also, I'm surprised: I'm actually thinking about leaving Linux to put FreeBSD (or OpenBSD?) on my laptop (Linux is just too unstable and base utilities change non-stop: ip(8), iw(8), ifconfig(8), iwconfig(8), dhcpcd(8), systemd...)
gnuvince 11y ago
> Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? There was a point about simplifying its configuration syntax. As the other two commenters said, you must be thinking of doas. Doas isn't a rewrite of sudo, it's an entirely new program with a different goal: capture the most common use cases of sudo and do away with most of the complexity to support the more involved scenario. This is a pretty common pattern in OpenBSD actually: provide the simple tool by default, let power users install the more complex tools if they need it for their work.
dwc 11y ago
Have you tried OpenBSD for desktop? FreeBSD on the desktop is, well, a pain. Hence PCBSD. But OpenBSD is actually pretty good at being a desktop, as long as you can live without some things like Flash and other things that will never be there.
- floatboth 11y ago
  PC-BSD is "the Ubuntu of BSD" – a preconfigured GUI, a GUI app "store" etc. If you can install OpenBSD, you don't need it. FreeBSD on the desktop is not a pain!
  - dwc 11y ago
    FreeBSD on the desktop used be take a fair amount of fiddling. If that's no longer true then that's awesome! :)
    - vive-la-liberte 11y ago
      A major cause of pain people are hit by when they try to use an operating system other than Windows is that they are uninformed about hardware compatibility. Frequently, when someone wants to try out a new OS, they'll try to install on their desktop/laptop/whatever and they will be frustrated to find a broken mess. The correct way to get started with a new OS is to first try it out in a virtual machine. If you find that you enjoy using it, buy compatible hardware and go metal.
SixSigma 11y ago
Strange, it's my desktop. I wonder how I manage.

Gracana 11y ago

> Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? You're thinking of doas, perhaps? http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/doas.1 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/...

moviuro 11y ago

The utility is now doas(1) (http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/doas.1 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man1/...) Also, I'm surprised: I'm actually thinking about leaving Linux to put FreeBSD (or OpenBSD?) on my laptop (Linux is just too unstable and base utilities change non-stop: ip(8), iw(8), ifconfig(8), iwconfig(8), dhcpcd(8), systemd...)

gnuvince 11y ago

> Didn't openbsd attempt to rewrite sudo recently? There was a point about simplifying its configuration syntax. As the other two commenters said, you must be thinking of doas. Doas isn't a rewrite of sudo, it's an entirely new program with a different goal: capture the most common use cases of sudo and do away with most of the complexity to support the more involved scenario. This is a pretty common pattern in OpenBSD actually: provide the simple tool by default, let power users install the more complex tools if they need it for their work.

dwc 11y ago

Have you tried OpenBSD for desktop? FreeBSD on the desktop is, well, a pain. Hence PCBSD. But OpenBSD is actually pretty good at being a desktop, as long as you can live without some things like Flash and other things that will never be there.

floatboth 11y ago
PC-BSD is "the Ubuntu of BSD" – a preconfigured GUI, a GUI app "store" etc. If you can install OpenBSD, you don't need it. FreeBSD on the desktop is not a pain!
- dwc 11y ago
  FreeBSD on the desktop used be take a fair amount of fiddling. If that's no longer true then that's awesome! :)
  - vive-la-liberte 11y ago
    A major cause of pain people are hit by when they try to use an operating system other than Windows is that they are uninformed about hardware compatibility. Frequently, when someone wants to try out a new OS, they'll try to install on their desktop/laptop/whatever and they will be frustrated to find a broken mess. The correct way to get started with a new OS is to first try it out in a virtual machine. If you find that you enjoy using it, buy compatible hardware and go metal.

SixSigma 11y ago

Strange, it's my desktop. I wonder how I manage.